Dosage Conversion Chart
Please be aware that the below charts reflect estimates and not exact measurements consistent across all kratom vendors. While it is recommended that you buy a scale to correctly measure your kratom, these charts offer support for those who are unable to do so.
When measuring an extract, we strongly recommend purchasing a small digital scale as they often have a significantly higher degree of variability.
Average Powdered Leaf
| Measurement | Ounces |
|---|---|
| 1 gram | 0.035 ounces |
| 50 grams | 1.75 ounces |
| 100 grams | 3.5 ounces |
Crushed Leaf
| Measurement | Grams |
|---|---|
| 1 Tablespoon | 2.7 grams |
| 1 Teaspoon | 0.9 grams |
| 000 Capsule | 0.70 – 1 gram |
Bali Powder
| Measurement | Grams |
|---|---|
| 1 Tablespoon | 6.2 grams |
| 1 Teaspoon | 2.3 grams |
| 000 Capsule | 0.75 – 1 gram |
Maeng Da Powder
| Measurement | Grams |
|---|---|
| 1 Tablespoon | 7 grams |
| 1 Teaspoon | 2.6 grams |
Green Malay Powder
| Measurement | Grams |
|---|---|
| 1 Tablespoon | 6.9 grams |
| 1 Teaspoon | 2.4 grams |
Extract Capsule Conversion (00 Capsules)
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| Extract | 00 Capsule Dosage | Equivalent Powdered Leaf |
|---|---|---|
| Gold Reserve Extract Capsule | 1 cap = approx .5 gram | 7-8 grams Powdered Leaf |
| Ultra Enhanced Indo Extract Capsule | 1 cap = approx .5 gram | 6-8 grams Powdered Leaf |
| ISOL-8 Extract Capsule | 1 cap = approx .5 gram | 6-7 grams Powdered Leaf |
| Ultra Enhanced Maeng Da Extract Capsule | 1 cap = approx .5 gram | 6-8 grams Powdered Leaf |
| Ultra Enhanced Red Kali Extract Capsule | 1 cap = approx .5 gram | 6-8 grams Powdered Leaf |
This is an interesting post. I found this page after a quick internet search on figuring out if I take too much K. My story…I have an ultra rare eternal tension type headache disorder. I developed it a little over 2 years ago. Started on percs about 3 months into it after laying in bed crying all day. I have a past with drug abuse from ages 14-20 until I joined the military. Never dabbled whatsoever since the early 2000s, nor did I want to. Gotta tell ya, the oxy grabbed me and started wrecking in my mid 30s. Anyway, I discovered Kratom about 6 months ago. I take it when I run out of meds and it absolutely is the real deal for WD AND pain! My question though is if I’m taking too much. I take 9-10g every 4-6 hours and have been doing so about 2 weeks out of the month since discovering it. Lab results say kidney and liver are perfect as of last week. I don’t really drink much water either. I do believe I need to
Step it down but wonder if K is as bad as oxy WD.
To be clear on my rather frustrated sounding comment yesterday, on the internet I’ve seen one of two views on kratom as an opioid. Three really and I’ll explain in a bit. A kratom has mild opioid effects but opioids from your doctor are much more effective, b, kratom’s opioid effects are stronger than morphine and nearly as strong as fentanyl, be carreful how much you take. c kratom has opioid effects but isn’t really an opioid, which makes no sense. It’s not chemically classed as an opioid only because opioids are narrowly defined as relatives of poppy flower chemicals like morphine or codeine, but it does have opioid effects, it binds to opioid receptors in the brain, spinal cord and gut. I’m not interested in anyone trying to tell me to go to my doc to get pk’s, because my doc won’t give me any. Even if she doled them out every time I went, 2 50mg tramadol is pitiful compared to some of the opioids I’ve ordered over the years. I can’t tell you how greatful I am to be able to go to my local smoke shop about five blocks away and purchase my painkillers. No judgement, no lectures about sticking to the dose, nothing. Just o=swipe my debit card and I’m good. You take that for granted when buying groceries or anything else, but it’s a blessing to be able to buy your pain meds over the counter and know that they’ll work, instead of the usual OTC stuff. Which pisses me off when people who say they are scientists and pharmacists denounce kratom and worse tell you to go to your doc for painkillers, never considering what you are to do if your doc says no. I’ve actually asked a couple of these people. YOu know what I got? Take FDA approved pain meds that are OTC, if you take them long enough they will work, alternatively beg your doctor. Beg! I don’t beg.
You are dumb.
Obvious troll is obvious.
So are you saying kratom is good or what
Yeah I have read a great deal of medical studies on Kratom and also some other garbage from the FDA and it’s really all garbage, heavily biased, and seems to be predicated on the idea that kratom is bad and just as addictive as heroin or something.
I have noticed, however, that in each case the medical studies used phrases like: “suggests” and “potential for abuse” – which is code for “not proven”.
Or my favorite ‘kratom’ related death: 65 year old male, high blood pressure, beta blockers and long time smoker for 45 years dies of a heart attack. OF COURSE only the kratom and not the high blood pressure, the hardened arteries caused by smoking, the plaque build up or possibly skipping his beta blocker (which can cause heart attack) that was responsible!! The FDA are idiots.
Thank you for saying that. Kratom nay Sayers all have one thing in common. They all stand to lose financially if you’re NO longer addicted to opiates. Hense, they no longer profit from pharmaceutical oppression. Cheers😊
Hey all. Trying kratom today for the first time. I have severe degenerative arthritis and have been on the pain med carnival ride for over a decade. I am down to only low dose oxy and tramadol these days but I didn’t take any today. Most of the time I just let myself suffer and that just sucks. Hoping I can get some relief today. I only tried a small amount, maybe a 1/4 tsp because I’m sensitive to meds. Figured I’d assess myself in an hour. But when you do find an amount that helps, how long does it usually last?
Hi. I hope like hell you find an amount of kratom that works for you. Having taken hydrocodone (nearly as potent as oxy) and tramadol, I can tell you from personal experience, tramadol is useless as an opioid. I don’t know how much chemistry knowledge you have so I’ll try to simplify this. Tramadol is approximately a tenth the strength of morphine, this is why it takes a minimum of 50mg before an opioid effect is noticeable. It takes 100mg of tramadol to equal the same effect as 10mg of morphine, and tramadol takes up to an hour, sometimes 2 or 3 to kick in. Oxy is much much faster, kicking in in around 10 to 30 minutes. Kratom duration depends on how much you take. For mild doses, 1 fourth to 1 teaspoon, effects begin in around 30 to 45 minutes and last 3 to 4 hours. At moderate to high doses, 1 to 5 teaspoons, effects last around 5 to 6 hours, which is the duration of oxycodone and tramadol. One good thing about kratom is that although you can overdose on it, it takes insane amounts of the stuff, greater than 20 grams, and usually combined with other drugs, like hard narcotics or benzodiasepines, like valium or zanax. It’s always a good idea to start with low doses of kratom. Wait an hour just to be on the safe side, then if you feel nothing, take more. You can take up to 5 teaspoons at a time, but if you are sensative to meds, a teaspoon at a time is probably a good maximum dose. One thing to be careful not to do is to mix kratom with your other opioids. It may not hurt you but it could, which is why it’s never a good idea to do so. One great thing about kratom which cannot be said enough about is that there are no limitations on kratom sale. In other words, if you take a ton and run out, just buy more. You don’t have to wait 30 days, there are no prescriptions, and so on and so on. You probably already know this but with prescription opioids if you run out early all your doctor and pharmacy are going to do is shrug, so sorry, take tylenol it’s the greatest thing sicne sliced bread and so on, which does not help anyone.
Wow 5 tea spoons is like 25 mg
That’s to much
And tramadol
Your quite harsh
That saved me from depression
I too am taking it for my Ankylosing Spondylitis. I have been taking it for a couple months on and off now to make it through my 8+hr shifts working retail. I take about 1/2 to 1 tsp mixed with orange juice. I have been able to make it through an entire shift. I was first with juvenile RA 40 years ago, so pain is not new to me and most pain meds have long since stopped working for me. Right now this is working.
I’m beginning to get quite disgusted. I want one thing and one thing only. Kratom is approximately equal to opioid x in terms of effectiveness. That is all. I certainly do not want either a, kratom is addictive dangerous and ineffective, go to your doctor for pain killers, or b, kratom is the greatest thing since sliced bread cures everything is completely safe, kills all pain, etc etc etc. I am simply trying to determine where kratom falls on the opioid ladder. In my own experience kratom it the very least as effective as tramadol in relieving my pain and at most, stronger than 100mg of tapentadol in relieving my pain, Before I get yelled at yet again, I know that dosage of kratom is difficul to estimate, it depends on how much you take and of what strain, but an idea of how potent kratom is as an opioid does help. I’m not interested in anecdotal reports I can find tons of those all over. I know that science doesn’t have much to do with kratom and that everything I can find on the internet is either a or b above but there has got to be better out there. If I could go to my doc to get pain killers, and get them reliably, I would. But I can’t, and I suspect that’s why most people end up on kratom they eitehr can’t get or don’t want the pain killers doctors can give them. Opioids are the most effective pain killers currently known because they suppress the body’s ability to feel pain by cutting off the pain signals, thus killing the pain. Everything else pales in comparison which is why people end up addicted to opioids. I’m not yelling at you guys, I’ve gotten nothing but help on this site but I am seriously sick of the efforts to make kratom either impossible to get or difficult to get, or of websites trying to get people to believe kratom can cure cancer, the common cold and prevent std’s. It’s a plant with specific chemicals which do specific things. I don’t want or need kratom addiction help, I don’t want or need people trying to turn me off of it by saying it oesn’t work take hydrocodone oxycodone etc instead, and I certainly don’t want or need people saying it works on stuff it doesn’t. Come on people.
Kendall Clark you have not tried the right vendor and or not have taken the correct dosage. Kratom activates the same receptors as opioids to some point. However the effects are not as damaging with minimal withdrawl when you decide to stop. Worst case sleep sucks for about a week when stopping. Read my other comment. Try canopybotanicals.com. good luck
Kendall
Have you read your message
Sorry mate
But you make know sense
What are you trying to say
I was going to say the same thing
What the fuck are you talking about though.
My sister stopped her script of Percocet 5 mg 2x a day back in Dec ‘18 hoping to find something more natural for pain relief. The energy, social comfort and the “intolerable becomes tolerable” aspect, I see, is greatly missed. I thought of looking into 100 gram green caps of Kratom for her. How many and how often in 24 hrs would/could 100 gram green caps of Kratom possibly be equivalent to 2-5 mg percs in 24 hrs? You guys seem like rocket scientists with this stuff.
Plz help. Thank you in advance.
100 gram capsules? Are there such things? I’m no pharmacist, but most kratom capsules have either 500mg of powder per capsule (capsule size 00) or if you can get very lucky, 1 full gram per capsule (capsule size 000). I’ve seen a few kratom venders that have between 750 and 1.5 grams per capsule and I’m not sure what size capsule that is. the minimum cutoff for pain relief from kratom seems to be 2 grams and the maximum seems to be 6 to 8 grams. You can take more without much risk of overdose, but the more kratom you take the more sedating it gets. I’ve never taken percocet, but I’d start on the mid to high end, 4 grams minimum going up to 6 if she doesn’t feel anything. I’d recommend a red strain for pain relief but green can work just fine. The important part to know about kratom is that any strain can provide pain relief, but some strains take more than others. If she’s just starting out, try taking 2 grams of kratom at a time every hour until she feels something. If she starts high and doesn’t feel anything she might get disappointed and conclude it doesn’t work. This way if she doesn’t feel anything with 2 grams she can take 2 more and two more, and so on. Definitely follow the dosing instructions on this page if you have any trouble. If you need any further help feel free to either comment hear or email me at [email protected], I’ll be happy to help.
hopefully this will be my last comment for a bit, but I can’t seem to help it. Never run across supportive people before. Why on earth does everyone, and by that I mean the general population, keep hammering home these two points? It’s either, a, oh just go to rehab they’ll fix you up with drugs to get you off, b, the pain isn’t that bad just suck it up, c, I’ve got some tylenol ibuprofen, aspirin or aleeve, try that it works on everything those opioids are for serious pain which you don’t have, or d, just go to your doctor tell her you have a drug problem and she’ll help. I finally did that although I hedged my bets and said I was having serious opioid withdrawal symptoms, not just pain but depression, itching and wrestless legs syndrome. I thought I might finally have gotten through to her when her nurse was nice, supportive and got me in despite there not being any openings, only to have the doc herself call me back the day of the appointment with a very dismissive, oh just go to the E R they’ll help you out. Reluctantly I did. The result was a lot of lecturing and a scrip for 24 50mg tramadol and what I hoped would be a new gp. The new gp refused to see me the day of the appointment, saying I hadn’t told him I was on tramadol up front and as a result he wasn’t seeing me, when he spoke to me in the ER and wrote me the friggin scrip! That was the last straw for me, kratom hear I come. Why do over the counter pain relievers not work on my pain at all? I’ve tried them times beyond counting, always when my mom insists they would work, and when they didn’t after around two or three weeks of horrible withdrawal symptoms, the worst being pain and insomnia the addict comments would start again. The commercials I hear act as if you can break your spine and swallow a couple of tylenol or aleve and you’ll be right as rain. Please don’t get into the, big pharma is evil and it’s a grand conspiracy from the government, those comments do not help and usually send my analytical brain into circles. I just want to know why they don’t work when everyting I read says they should, people i talk to claim they do, and even my doctor seems to view opioids as unnecessary, no one should need those. And for the record. I am not fat. I weight 170 pounds and I’m approx 5 5. I exercise, at least when my pain will allow or I have the energy, which is not often, but I can’t drive (my wife and I are both visually impaired) so we have to rely on family members and friends, and ever since everyone has decided I’m a drug addict in denial and my wife is enabling me, and she is not, most of the help has dried up. Ok, I hope I’ve ranted enough, but man the more I think and talk about my situation the more agrivated I get.
I read ur post n I know exactly what ur going through. If u ever need sum1 to vent to, am here.
I try to do my homework, looking up each new drug up on wikipedia to determine mechanism of action (how it works) and, more importantly, how potent the drug is. I also look up what wikipedia calls their dependence liability, which in plain english is how likely it is to be addicted to or cause dependence, which apparently are not quite the same thing. Sorry for my lecturely tone of voice, it seems to be a habbit I can’t break. My doc dismisses wikipedia, oh that thing, I know best, hear follow my dosing instructions and you’ll be fine. I will say that I went on the dosing train a few times. I’d go up, then back down, then up, then down, then off, then on, then up, then down and … you get the idea. Even I got tired of the doctors a appointments and the endless you’re just an addict comments. The only one who was supportive was my wife, and she was my rock. A good way to get on her bad side is to claim either one of us has a drug problem, she’s on 4 10mg hydrocodone a day for a metal rod in her spine she’s had since she was a teenager. She’s one of the most addiction proof people I’ve ever run across, on the rare occasions she runs out before refill date, she suffers from no symptoms I can detect or get her to admit beyond the pain she takes the pills for. She’s smarter than I was, she sticks to below the prescribed dose, usually 2 to 3 pills at most per day, and doesn’t share with anyone, even hides them so no one else can find them and as a result they almost always last past the refill date. I wish I had the fortitude to do that, but I have a horrible pain tolerance, at least now.
Note that I have never actually overdosed on opioids, not to the point where I had any symptoms other than constipation and withdrawal when I stop, but my family is, and you’ve all probably heard this a thousand times before, you’re gonna die, you’re gonna overdose you can’t stop, just go to a rehab clinic, surely there’s some government program that will take you there and pay for it, no idea where one is you find that out, you can’t stick to your dose, they’re right about that but I never went over the maximum allowable dose according to wikipedia either. Right at it? Sure, almost all the time but never over it. Just curious, how in the world can imodium (loperamide) help with opioid withdrawal symptoms? It is an opioid, but it’s limited to the gut, can’t cross the blood brain barrier to activate cns receptors without either taking massive, near fatal amounts or with the help of, oh hell what was that drug called, quinidine?
See if this story sounds familiar to anyone on hear. Condensing so I don’t ramble on and on and on. Had some kind of tork injury to my back and upper shoulders which caused severe muscle strain, tendon damage and, what felt like to me at least, some nerve damage that caused unbelievable agony. Doc faught me at first, gave me the oh take OTC bla bla bla, eventually, reluctantly, prescribed what I feel is a pitiful 2x a day 50mg tramadol tablets. Of course I ran out way before the refill date, that’s when I discovered even a weak opioid can have some of the worst withdrawal symptoms I’ve ever experienced. Several trips to the hospital, a few, very stingy scrips, then those dried up. Began ordering tramadol online from shady pharmacies after the doc told me I sbouldn’t hurt, and if I do it’s because I’m fat, no I’m not exagerating. My family jumped on the addiction bandwagon, try rehab it’s great, and so on. I kept ordering tram at enormous grey market prices, hemorrhaging money. Debt piled up. Enough is enough. Tried kratom. Amazing plant. I thought nothing would kill my pain but opiates, turns out kratom does. I’m not hear to sell the plant. I’m not hear to rant about how rehab does not work, only to point out that it is not the only, and in most cases even the best, option. When you live in a small town with no transportation and no way to drive and a family that essentially wants to plan your funeral after you have a massive opioid overdose you’re kind of limited in options. I order 1 kilo of kratom every month from my local smoke shop. I find it to be the cheapest option and yes, I have tried online venders and while they are handy, their prices could be better. I’m on a fixed income so money is always tight. I take anywhere from 1 to 3 teaspoons at a time depending on the pain and withdrawal symptoms, up to a maximum of 15 teaspoons per day, usually much much less, around 6 teaspoons at the least and 9 to 12 at most, only done 15 on exceptionally bad pain, itching, wrestless legs, insomnia, and some of the worst depression days I’ve ever experienced and I’m not prone to depression. Why doctors snort at this plant and call it quack medicine, when they’re being kind, and the F D A denounces it since they can’t ban it I do not no. I’ve never taken hard drugs, strongest opioid I’ve ever had is tapentadol, which is in between tramadol and morphine, aprox oxycodone level pain relief and kratom beats them all hands down. I will admit, I hope this doesnt cause me to get yelled at but I’ve also begun to vape, a small pocket draw activated device with 6mg nicotine and menthol eLiquid in it around 6 to 7 puffs a day to help potentiate the kratom and in addition to helping with pain relief it also helps the anxialitic ( anti anxiety) effects of kratom, which also beat the pitiful 10mg amitriptiline the doc gave me after I wined loudly enough. I’m not trying to give advice to anyone seeking help with opioid withdrawal or pain relief since I don’t know if my routine works well for everyone but it seems to work well for me.
Kendall Clark, how long have you been on Kratom for withdrawal from tramadol? Do the withdrawal symptoms ever go away such as restless legs etc? Im currently taking kratom for tram wd but only on day 2 so I’m hoping this isn’t a several month long process where I have to wd from kratom eventually too. Thanks!
I’m praying for you I’ve been on suboxone on and off when it first came out in glass ampsoule and give a shot in a muscle this life sucks with kratom it has too be better I am starting soon getting to a low dose everything I have read says you have to do it every 4 hours it take like 8 wks for subs to be completely out of your system and you will start to feel life agian so don’t give up
I was stuck taking 16mg of Suboxone for almost 10 years. I hate the shit . I have no energy no drive it ruined my life. Got me off opioid but it sucks. I’m trying Kratom to get off Suboxone tonight first dose here we go .
I’m with you. I’ve been stuck on it for 5 years. It’s horrible and changed me as a person. I have a 15 year old daughter and I’ve sucked at being a mom since I became addicted to Suboxone. I’ve tried 3 times to get off and the longest I lasted was 10 days. I was taking Xanax, Kratom, Tianeptine Sodium and other things. The most important thing to do is to get down to the lowest dose possible before going off it. The sad thing is that I never should’ve been on it. I went to my Pain Management Doctors one day, crying, and told them I was afraid that I was addicted to Percocet, because I kept needing more. I have major chronic pain, fibromyalgia, depression, anxiety, etc. Within a week they put me on Suboxone. Within a month I had horrible side effects, excruciating nerve pain and parts of my body would just jerk all of a sudden. After thinking about it I realized I was never addicted to Percocet. If I had gone off it at the time, I wouldn’t have had any side effects. The commercials and news all got me scared about being on it so I panicked. I realized I hadn’t been addicted, your body just naturally needs more because you build up a tolerance. I went back and told my Docs and they tried to help me get off of Suboxone and even gave me 180, 10-350 Percocets to help. It didn’t work. I took 10 at a time and it didn’t make a dent. That was 4 1/2 years ago. I am now trying Kratom again. I wish you luck!
How are you today?
Vince, I know you’ll get through this because for one, I quit Suboxone with only clonodine (bp med) you probably know of. And two, because you start feeling better faster. I know it might sound ridiculous to you right now. But you will notice sooner than later, your thinking, you start feeling, you are gonna feel good, I’m telling ya! Watch some guided meditation videos on YouTube mother*ucker! It helps!!! I didn’t even know about meditation back than. And go plant based if you can for a few weeks. If you can give yourself 30 days, I promise you that you will be amazed at the progress you can make by staying positive, not loosing perspective and having a little patience, I mean, we all owe it to ourselves to try! And your future self is already so thankful to you for caring enough about you’re body! Anything you need..
☺️
-Aleksandra
Good luck. Let me know If it works and what strain you are taking. Need to do the same
It works man, I’ve been taking Kratom for 7 weeks (that’s how long it’s been since my last dose of suboxone) and I’m just about back to normal. Most capsules are .5 grams and I started out taking 7-8 capsules, the first week was rough even with the kratom, but just push through, it gets better
I’m a heroin addict. I shoot bout a gram of raw dope a day. I’m out of money and ways to get it. I don’t want to turn to crime. My reason for not quitting thus far has been me being scared of withdrawals so I just got 50 g of red Borneo now I’m starting to take some.think my first dose I’m going to try two grams and see how I feel. I just need to get through like 2 to three days of no opiates then I can take a Suboxone for like 2 days and then be done with it. My main thing is all the anxiety and pain that comes with the heroin withdrawal.
Hey man, I kicked a 7-year poppy seed tea habit with the help of kratom. I was probably ingesting a couple hundred milligrams of morphine a day for years, using multiple pounds of the stuff daily. I would suggest going a lot higher than 2 grams of red Borneo. That’s not going to do much for you. I would try 5 or so grams – a good level tablespoon (a normal cereal spoon, not a formal measuring spoon). If that doesn’t do much, try 2 tablespoons– and so on. Takes about 30 minutes to begin feeling anything. Kratom helped me sleep. Also, order more kratom, and expect 7-10 days of rough sailing. You’ll make it. I didn’t feel like a human being again until day 6. The depression is intense, then it lifts. Mass doses of loperamide will eliminate all withdrawals, but they can kill you. If you’re desperate, use 24 milligrams of loperamide, but no more than that, and don’t do it for more that 2-3 days. It takes about 2-3 hours for lope to kick in. One all thing to look forward to is that as time passes, kratom itself will be something you make a “habit” out of — but it’s a healthier one that easier to reduce or quit, and once you find a good vendor, you’re set. It’s affordable and easy to get. Hope this helps. Good luck brother. I know some of what you’re going through. Once you’re through it, you’ll wonder why you waited so long to get your life back. And remember, the sickness you’ll be feeling is not “sobriety.” That will pass — I guarantee it. You’ll enjoy feeling happy and calm without H. Cheers
Vitamin c in the form of sodium acorbate bro (easier on the stomach than ascorbic acid). I’m not an opiate addict but this as well as kratom has helped a LOT of opiate addicts. Loperamide is not safe. God bless
I stopped taking methadone recently after being on it 3 yrs. Before that I started on percs, then morphine then opanas. I tapered down on the methadone but even at 20 grams felt rough without. Kratom definitely helped me. Going on 3 weeks without methadone and feel pretty decent. Not much energy is my main problem but some white vein kratom helps that. maybe it’s coming off the methadone maybe it’s me hitting my mid-forties I don’t know but regardless the kratom is definitely helpfull and natural. exactly why Uncle Sam and the big pharmaceutical companies are trying 2 stop kratom use. Like cannabis it helps and is natural
Finally someone else coming off of methandone ive been on it for over a decade n have detoxed myself down to 2mgs n then quit.. i have 0 energy or motivation to do anything n still have hot n cold flashes so i thought id try red bali kratom seems to work for my mind n not thinking about how bad i feel all the time but i dont want to get hooked on this either just ready to be done w it all but kratom hopefully will be a temporary relief for me.. i will have to try the white strains for energy now..
Are you having good luck with red Borneo? I get so confused as to what kind to use.
Scared to death, 2 g of crate him is not going to make a dent in your 1 g of heroin addiction. Please talk to somebody who has done this before so you do not find yourself being completely miserable.
Kratom*
NICE CATCH WOW YOU’RE SO GOOD AT SPELLING. Are you seriously that dense? People with IQs this low should be quarantined.
Kratom has helped me and many others in our situation this stuff saved my life and I’m thankful everyday that I got turned into it