Wow I have heard some stuff on here. Addicted to tramadol! What! I’m 49 and have done every drug imaginable. By far stimulating drugs pleased me the most. Especially pain pills vicodin lortab ect. 40 750mg a day no joke. For about 2 years straight surprised I’m not dead. First of all subuxone saved me originally and then became a problem of it’s own. Yes the withdrawal from subuxone was terrible horrible actually. But nothing compared to withdrawal from 40 vics a day. Anyways kratom has helped me off of everything. Red veins worked great for pain and stimulating white manga worked even better for that Red Bali was to relaxing for me and made me very sleepy. No thanks. Lol. But powder works better than capsules also.a tablespoon every 4-6 hours will give yall exactly what ur looking for. Be honest. Wink wink. Yes you do get buzzed. But hey it’s legal and natural.

New to kratom
Does it help with withdrawal from suboxone?

I spent 8 years as an opioid addict and with the help of kratom I have been free of the pills for over 2 years now. When I say I was an addict I mean it in the very literal sense of the word. I managed to loose my job, anything I owned that was worth any monetary value, most of my friends and most importantly I almost lost my family. I heaped massive amounts of debt upon our family borrowing money, refinancing our property, pawning our possessions, using pay day loans all the way down to out right theft to aquire money to pay for my opioid habit. I tried many times to quit and I never had the will power. I had become so dependent on pills that I could not find any joy in anything without them. Then I discovered kratom. Using various strains from maeng da to Bali as a supplement to offset the chemical damage done to my brain and body I beat opioid addiction. I was fortunate to have the help of my wife and kids as well as counseling but without kratom I know in my heart I would not be alive to write this. I am sharing this in hopes that someone else out there may be struggling with the same problem and they by chance read this and know that there is hope. Maeng da is the best strain I have found to counteract the effects of withdrawal. Once the worse of the withdrawal was over I switched to Bali as a way to keep myself leveled off. Bali worked well in keeping my cravings away once I was over the withdrawal. Now I rarely use kratom at all. When I do use it I am using it as a true medicine instead of a life preserver. I take it when my back aches. I take it when my arthritis flairs up. I take it as needed now and it is a glorious feeling. Take heart and know that you are stronger than your fears or your addiction.

Ok Tim last one I promise.. haha But first wanted to clarify on kratom being grown in shaded, or semi shaded conditions vs sunny locations. The predominant alakaloid produced by the plant is mitragynine. Mitragynine to a large degree is responsible for the stimulant effect of kratom. On the contrary 7hdroxy-mitragynine is more analagesic/sedative in nature. Expressing traits more in line with classic opioid analogs. Studies have shown pure 7 hydroxy-mitra as being 13 times more potent than morphine mg for mg. However kratom grown under normal circumstances before harvesting has virtually no 7hydroxy. Or varying low amounts. However kratom growing in excessively sunny locations test the highest for 7hdroxy present before harvest. So you want a shade grown, and indoor dried green vein strain. Last but certainly not least consumption amount, and method of consumption. I’ve already pitched my regimented dosing schedule. So now I shall go into method I simply weigh out my dose of 4.5 grams. Don’t cheap out weigh your dose accurately use a scale. With kratom less is more, and I’m not sure you understand agonist, and antagonist relationships on u – receptors. But essentially kratom has safeguards for abuse. These include overdosing for the sake of euphoria. Which leads to loss of said euphoria, and a rapid spiral to drowsiness. Being nauseated at the end of the day. From chasing one dose with another. While neglecting to eat. Anyway back to the story I’m running out of time. My method First I set water towards a boil. After I weigh my dose I throw my 4.5 in the bottom of my glass cup. I wait until the water starts a simmering boil. Then I grab the kettle, and wait for low boil to quiet, and steam to roll. I pour the water in about 4-5 times the amount of the powder. It fills less than half the tall glass. I stir it up well making sure it’s dissolved. Leave it spinning spoon on top of glass. Come back ten minutes later. The powder has settled to the bottom. And the tea with all the alkaloids you want like the mitragynine which is water soluble. 7hydroxy-mitra is not water soluble. It will not be in the tea. However it will remain in the powder. You can simply carefully pour off the tea on top. Being careful not to disturb the sediment. Or you can filter it. Though in my opinion is a waste of time, and filters catch good stuff. Anyway.. Added advantage you can detect contaminated kratom this way. Inspect the sediment on the bottom. You will notice the soft parts of the leaves separate from stem, and vein. You can see what proportions they are in. You can sometimes visibly see contaminants. White goo floating on the surface of sediment is usually not bad unless it’s excessively gooey, and creates a layer nearly as thick as the green plant matter layers. When your stirring your glass let your spoon lightly rub the bottom of the glass. If you hear, and feel sand scraping between your spoon and glass. Carefully bust your good pan out. And sift that green powder down to the heavies. Get a magnify. Inspect the contaminants. Any contaminate should be deemed unnacceptable. But very fine uniform grained sand. Can just be due to accumulation out of the air from silica particles(sand). But un-uniform sand particles especially large ones that nearly crumble like glass under your quick moving spoon. Likely mean that kratom plant underwent flooding, and was either not washed at all. Or simply dunked once in a 55 gallon drum of river water. That has already had fifty other bundles dunked by other workers. All of which do not think of sanitation like you, or I do. They also don’t understand immunities, and cross continental contagion concerns. Be careful where you get your kratom. It’s great to get to cheap kratom. But what’s the real cost? Amongst things found in the bottom ridge of the pan may include sand, rusted metal shavings, and maybe a few specks of gold. Haha jk. But you never know. The rusty metal shavings can be from when again these shady small time Indo facebook vendors, wild harvesters, or “farmers” Use old rusty milling machines to mill, and micronize the cured leaves. Unless these machines are properly maintained they quickly begin to degrade from the high volume, and frequency of use. This coupled with the often constant high levels of humidity, and lack of access to climate controlled facilities. Further contribute to the rapid degradation of these iron work horses. Which inevitably means oxidized rusty shavings contaminating the kratom. These are often very fine, and hard to see without magnify. But if there is metal there is usually sand. Anyway I’m super drained from a long day. Be happy to answer any questions email me at [email protected] Also as a last bit of valuable knowledge. If you do not consume the powder, but only the tea. You can avoid the overwhelming majority of negative side effects. Nausea, constipation (for those who have this problem) I never have. But I do know a friend who fixes the issue by taking his dose with an oil meant for consumption. He says they call him grease lightning at work. Because when he goes number two. They hear pow pow, and a flush and a few moments later out he comes a load lighter. Haha. But really in Indonesia the majority has always not consumed the leaf. They either make a tea from the leaf (unground) and filter the whole leaves before drinking. Or they stick a leaf under their lip. To absorb sublingually. Which is actually really effective. But they never consume the leaf itself except for in meals prepared for those in extreme pain. In which cases the highest content 7hydroxy velvet red leaves are chosen to infuse into a fatty meal. As 7hydroxy-mitra is not water soluble unlike the more stimulating precursor mitragynine which is water soluble. But ive got to jam to bed. Have a Good one Brother. Hope me passing a little of what I’ve learned has helped you to make some informed decisions as to routes to take. Feel free to email me with any further questions, or inquires.