Kratom Strains And Effects
Updated Nov 11, 2021
Written By: Mark Andrews
Countless people across the world are learning about kratom in 2020. With so many strains, its important to understand which strain is right for you. Unlike synthetic opioids, kratom’s chemical composition is complex, and the effects of this composition are dynamic.
Its main alkaloids are mitragynine, paynanthine, speciociliatine, and the more minor 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-HMG). Kratom’s neurochemical complexity is echoed in its physiological effects.
It is generally understood that at low doses (< 1 gram), kratom “can boost energy and enhance mood,” whereas at higher doses kratom is sedating, and may have anxiolytic qualities.
The following table serves as a comparative base for some of the most popular strains of kratom on the market.
Click on any strain below to find more information:
Ground Leaf Strains
| Strains | Effects | Dosage |
|---|---|---|
| Bali | An ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost. Bali works somewhat differently than a traditional red kratom. Bali helps achieve a gentle energy boost while maintaining the pain relief expected of a red. Euphoric and the most classic opiate like among the strains of kratom. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Maeng Da | Energizing and stimulating with pain killing effects. Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick because of it’s specific alkaloid properties. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Bali | Similar to Bali with some red characteristics. This is a known as a versatile strain. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Vein Thai | Similar to Bali with a more classic red strain effects. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Vein Kali | Sedating and more classically opiate like. Red Kali is a more traditional red kratom offering pain relief & relaxation. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Indo | Similar to Red Kali and many other traditional strains. Red Indo is a more tame red vein strain and is often touted as ideal for mild pain relief and relaxation. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Indo | Balances pain relief and energy boosting qualities. The combination of alkaloids in Green Indo creates a longer lasting milder effect although there is not as high of a concentration of alkaloids as SGM. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Malay | This original variety of Malaysian Kratom is well known for its mood-lifting, energizing effects. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Vein Kali | A stimulating strain which also has painkilling attributes. Green Kali delivers a strong boost of energy without sacrificing any of the sought after pain relief effects. It is know for have a higher potency than Green Indo. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Kali | More euphoric or dissociating. White Vein Kali is a milder white strain known for its energizing qualities – when compared to Red Vein Kali – while still containing notable pain relief qualities. . | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Thai | White Thai may be the most stimulating of all white strains. There are however less pain relieving attributes than a red vein strain or a strain similar to Bali as a trade off. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Indo | Similar to Red Indo which is best known for its pain relief attributes. However White Vein Indo differs from the calming Red Indo by bringing a euphoric dissociative kick with it. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Borneo | Known as a uniquely high quality white strain of kratom. It has known for its long lasting, energizing effect. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Super Green Malaysian | Known for its unique ability to combine the characteristic pain relieving properties of a red strain with the energy and euphoria boost of a white strain. SGM also has some of the longest lasting effects of any kratom with smooth delivery due to the high concentration of alkaloids. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
Kratom Extracts
| Strains | Effects | Dosage |
|---|---|---|
| Ultra Enhanced Indo | Most euphoric of the extracts and works well for reducing social anxiety. UEI manages to contain a full range of effects including pain relief & relaxation with a slight energy and mood boost. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Gold Reserve Extract | Powerful extract made by applying highly concentrated kratom alkaloids back to natural kratom leaf. Gold Reserve is a highly potent extract providing a blend of stimulation and pain relief while providing full body relaxation with a notable energy boost. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| ISOL-8 Extract | ISOL-8 is an outlier and has caffeine like stimulation. ISOL-8 uniquely focuses in on the energy and stimulating effects of kratom while other extracts generally bring out a broader range of effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Ultra Enhanced Red Kali | This extract is made by blending pure alkaloids from Red Vein Kalimantan leaf with high quality Red Kali leaf. This is not made with semi-synthetic chemicals but only all natural kratom leaf alkaloidal extract. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Natural Enhanced True Thai | Made from taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction of Thai Kratom and reapplied to a Green Vein Thai leaf. This extract is a high potency version of classic Thai kratom strains notable for a mild energy boost with significant pain relief & relaxation effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Natural Enhanced White Sumatra | Created by taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction from white vein kratom and mixing it with White vein leaf. This reformulation results in a more potent version of white vein kratom with significant pain relief and relaxation effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
I have been using kratom daily for about a year now for pain. I have tendonitis in my left shoulder and chronic low back pain that the doc can’t figure out. I take 3 teaspoons of red vein every morning before work and it helps tremendously. Only complaint I have is it makes me itchy but so did the prescription I was on. Also, I have personally seen what it can do for heroin addiction. My best friend had been in and out of rehab 4 times before he discovered kratom and has been off heroin for a year now. I have been trying to research it more to find out any long term damage it can do but I have found little scientific research on it. Please if you are a scientist, politician or someone who can make it happen there most definitely needs some studies to be done because the effects are real but it would be nice to know the risks, if any. Also it would be nice to have some sort of legitimacy brought into the business because there aren’t enough testing standards and I have read that the FDA has found a lot of heavy metal contamination in some samples it studied.
Dude that’s the last thing we need! If the government gets their hands on it we will never see it again!!! It’ll become banned and listed as some crazy schedule drug that they can lock you up for possessing!
The DEA is already pushing to ban Kratom in the US! They made a BIG push to get it banned in 2018. We DO NOT want the govt getting involved
Brew 30g on a LOW temp simmer with 2 shot glasses of lemon or lime juice for 2hours strain with cheese cloth them add strained kratom to clean pot and add 30 more grams repeat first step after straining you can repeat the process again the kratom paste/powder should NOT be bitter if u brew it correctly The resulting syrup/kratom tea can then be turned anhydrous by evaparating the water Not for the beginner!
So here is the rub I was severely injured on the job as a LEO I had five lower back surgeries a thoracic surgery and a cervical surgery I was taking up to three hydros a day I decided that I just needed to stop with any prescriptions for pain I told my spine surgeon that I wanted to stop and he recommended a all natural pharmacy the pharmacist gave me Green Maeng Da in capsules that was three years ago I had no withdrawals at all from the five years of taking prescription pain killers every day so I order the powder form I take a 1 gram every morning (I put it in hot coffee) it works really fast!!! I might take 1 more gram scoop at bedtime that’s it I rotate the Green Maeng Da and Red Bali green one month Red the next I never mix them. The Maeng Da saved and changed my life I feel better and work out do martial arts again considering much of my spine is implanted metal now and I do not crave anything if I start hurting for any reason I take Tylenol or Ibp and it does the trick I wish everyone well.
That’s great to hear you’re receiving real medical benefits from kratom. Do your coworkers know? What’s the general opinion of kratom among the LEO community?
Which ones did u take? How much??
For me, my demon was tramadol. None of the horrible withdrawal from the harder stuff, although I did have the wrestless legs, insomnia, mood swings. No cravings, no pain other than the pain I took it for, but kratom worked for me. I started buying bottles of 120 capsules, those lasted about a week, two at the most. I was being gouged at the smoke shop so ended up ordering them online, although I’m not sure if I’m allowed to say which companies hear, but I buy them by the kilo. I have something like 8, possibly 10 kilos at the moment, to make sure I don’t run out in the middle of the month. I am entirely tramadol free, have been for the past six months or so, and when my doc, who fired me by the way, offered me tram because i hadn’t asked in a while, I told her no with a big grin. When she asked what I was on I said kratom, and you’d have run if you saw the look on her face. She fired me about two months later. I entertain myself with her firing me because of the kratom, but the letter was so full of doctor speak I don’t really understand the reason. I take 10 capsules at a time, 12 on a bad day, 3 to 4 times a day. I want to cut down on the amount I take, take the minimum amount for pain relief and stress relief, so I’m going to start gradually cutting myself down. It doesn’t seem to matter which kratom strain I try, they all kill pain, although the red maeng and trainwreck kill it the most. I can’t believe I’m finally off the tram, I never thought I could. Now to kick the nicotine habbit I started vaping about the same time I quit the tram, and I’m looking for an herbal alternative to kick that. Not asking for help hear, but a pointer to something other than smokers anonymous, nicotine patches or gum would be nice. Tried all but the group, and the nicotine patches and gum didn’t do a thing. No cravings, but I do get a tad irritable if I go too long without a puff. I hate that habbit, it’s a money pit.
So recently I just started to see kratom in my area now I have heard of it but I dont that much about it could someone please explain what it does
It’s in the caffeine family, It helps with pain, fatigue, and depression. Some kinds of kratom have specific side effects like headaches, and others don’t. It also has helped many people end their addiction to opioid drugs. The verdict is still out as to if it’s a supplement, a herb, or a medicinal drug, or an illegal one. Lots of conflicting beliefs and laws. Which seem to vary by state. Use wisely, keep researching. I’ve heard mention of long term possible stress or damage to liver and kidneys but this is unverified. Personally I noticed it causes constipation and I know hydration and metabolism is connected to kidney function so there might be a precaution. Good luck. I hope this help answer any questions.
What kind of kratom
Hi I have Severe fibromyalgia pain. I stopped narcotics for it and have been on Kratom about a year it’s the only thing that has helped my pain. I take anywhere from 15 to 25 gr a day. If I’m addicted to this I don’t care. If it’s not Kratom I would be addicted to narcotics. I cannot take the daily pain without it .
I totally get it.
I have been taking kratom for about 9 years. It got me off of opiates literally the same day I tried it and I never looked back. I’ve been using Green Malaysian and various White veins the entire time. Reds make me sleepy. I am slightly narcoleptic not to mention I have carpel tunnel in both wrists, rheumatoid arthritis and severe lower back pain. So we order quite a ton of kratom. My husband and I order 1 k of the green and 1 k of the white at a time from a site straight out of Malaysia. Its extremely affordable and pure. I mix it up thoroughly in a 2 gallon food grade bucket. (And then spend 5 minutes blowing dust out of my nose) We don’t have time to be scooping from each one or dosing them separately. But here is the key to effective kratom dosing. No capsules. Not if u take 2 tsp. Per dose like I do. I take the small 4 oz. ball canning jelly jar, pour orange juice into it, add my scoops of kratom, stick the canning lid on and shake the crap out of it. Then chug it. I can’t do it with water or any other liquid. Anyone out there that can’t handle the texture or flavor…..do the orange juice. Its the only liquid it will mix with.
Adrienne,
Would u mind sharing the vendor you purchase from
My sister gave me a shot of Borneo Keratom. Powdered, tea style. I did not expect to wake up and find my chronic lower back pain gone in the morning.
Hi all! I love kratom! I am in recovery as well, was a train wreck, alcohol and cocaine mostly, but when that stopped working i switched to iv heroin/coke. I overdosed 3 times nearly died. I haven’t had a drink or an elicit drug in 3 years and 3 months. I started using kratom about 1 year into sobriety, i really struggled with “using” and whether i could say i was still sober but it’s saved me. I use white maeng da or Bali. I overuse all substances, have a crazy metabolism, i take 5-10 grams not every day, usually at night. I am not worried bout what people say about me not being sober, i haven’t been to the hospital, in an ambulance or jumped out of any windows (broke my leg trying to sneak to the liquor store) in 3 years, don’t have any desire to drink or do street drugs again, and that’s a miracle. I’m very grateful. Take care everyone!!
Hey I’m super happy for you I’m recovering still I don’t know how long I just know it’s been a while n I’d honestly not say what but I’ll just say it was bad but on a for real note I’m really happy that you found something natural to help you I’m a big natural substance supporter but not a natural substance abuse supporter but for real congrats on your recovery and sticking with it I never knew the strength people needed to recover from substances until I had to myself (honestly am happy for you and all the people recovering in this world
I can 100% relate to you….i also overuse and abuse everything and anything. Kratos has literally saved my life. I 100% agree with you that Kratom(a natural herb) is waaay better than any kind of narcotic!!! 🙌 Glad to hear you are doing well and feeling good! Stay with it! 💯💯
*Kratom not kratos….stupid auto-correct! 🙃
I love kratom
Yes I agree kratom has pretty much saved my life, I will say that it does replace one addiction for another but its alot safer and 100% natural
You go Ms. Lady💐💐 Great news!!
Some might find this funny but kratom saved me from alcohol withdrawals. I was an alcoholic for 16 years. I have no argues to drink or want a drink. Also Bone spurs in my back my back is always stiff and painful I use Red Kratom for pain and white for energy.
I totally get it.I have been addicted to opiates for 30 yrs.Methadone 150 mgs a day for ten yrs then subxone for one.Wanted to get off all meds and while going through severe withdrawl decided to give it a try.Bought an ounce (still legal in texas)and took about a third of it.Well within 45 minutes to an hour it was like a miracle.Runny nose gone,depression gone,sense of doom gone,bones aching gone.It even got me out of bed and I ate.If it is addictive Id much rather be on this than methadone.Way fewer side effects.And it takes my anxiety away !
Which one did u use?
Can I ask what strain you used?
What are the false accusations on red boreno kratom and what makes them false?
I am taking Vivitrol/Naltrexone and was wondering if there are strains of Kratom that can be used at the same time?
This is my first time taking this! How many capsules do I take? I’m confused with how many capsules is whatever grams! Please help!
It depends on what size the capsules are. 00 size is about half a gram each. 000 size is about a gram each.
Omg! I took 14 (00 capsules) this morning of Bali and it did nothing! I started with 4 capsules last August..I wonder if I’ve built a tolerance
Usually each capsule is a half gram. 2 equals a gram.
Usually 1/2g per capsule
Two capsules is 1 gram. Each capsule is 500 mg and a gram is 1,000 mg.
I use capsules, on my box it says 1 to 2 capsules per day. Hope this is helping.
Quit before it’s too late.
Quit what…naysayer
Why? You have to have a reason. I’d like to know why you say this. You can email me at gmail.
Does anyone have real valid concerns? Or is this just a personal opinion?
Scarlettslife
LOL. did u find Jesus? hehe
I did and He is my FATHER but I am taking this w no conviction. If this is the worst I’m doing I promise u that I’m a million times better than I was, I wasn’t the best human lol. Just didn’t want u thinking cuz people r a hot mess that u cant have a relationship w GOD!
What do you mean quit before it’s too late? I have never tried this before, but I bought a small bag of the “red bali” at a head shop today to try it. I have been on stupid suboxone for around 8 years. A year ago i quit cold Turkey & was still having horrible withdrawals after 8 months of suffering. I felt like i had the frickin flu the whole time except i had extra symptoms such as restless legs, anxiety, etc etc. It sucked! So i had to start taking suboxone again just so i could get back to work. The government (the deep state ass holes) & pharmaceutical companies are ass holes. I also think the pharmaceutical company probably has already got a hold of this kratom shit! My gf just told me it use to be out before when they stopped it, but all of a sudden it’s back out again. Lol so yeah…I’d say they got a hold of it & probably put their BS man made chemicals in it. But….maybe not! Let’s hope not. The deep state ppl cant stand anyone doing anything for themselves if they arent getting money from it. That’s why most of the natural shit that helps with stuff is illegal in most places such as shrooms & marijuana! Its bullshit. But ah…good old Trumps working on fixing all kinds of jacked up bs rules & laws they’ve put on us. I know most ppl dont believe that because they listen to the wrong shit (such as mainstream media). We will see. Pretty sure the shit will be going down soon. Lol that’s why I’m gonna try this out. Gonna stock up on it so I don’t die during the apocalypse from damned fricking withdrawals lol. That would suck.
I normally took 12 but I have a high tolerance and it depends on the strain
Don’t do capsules. Use powder and use a small magnet to mix through the pull out the heavey metals this plants tends to absord. Use about three grams of bai and you’ll feel less in pain. Actually yellow Borneo might be better for pain. I have so t enough tests
The grinded and finished product most likely has metals in it because particles of the grinder shaved/ broke off during the grinding process. I would recommend getting your kratom from a reliable source that has their product lab tested for any bacteria’s or harsh metals.
Ryan,
Thanks for the heads up! I’m still learning about Kratom and haven’t purchased any yet. I know NOTHING about which brands are reputable and which are not, nor do I know if I should even believe it when a website indicates that they do test.
Any thoughts, brand suggestions or brand warnings, etc.?
If it makes a diff, I’m specifically seeking Kratom strains that have the power to knock hideous neuropathic pain on its butt. (But since I don’t live in a fairytale, I’d be delighted to find a variety that at least helps a fair amount!)
Thanks for any input you and/or others can provide! ~ Michelle
Well it depends on the size yo if thair “00” capsules (wich more likely than not they are) thair 730 milligrams and thairs 1000 milligrams in 1 gram so probly start with 2 or 3 but the best way for effects is (the honey,lemon & black pepper is to your preference tho so you gotta expirament with that) to heat up some water and put some honey in it to help with that horrid taste & put some lemon juice in it to help the alkaloids in the kratom leach into the water so your body obsorbs it faster and then put a few dashes of black pepper in it to BECUSE that also helps your gut absorb it faster aswell
P.s. a good brand is “NJOY” highly recommend it
Generally .5 grams in a cap.
2 caps = AROUND 1 full gram…not exact though.
Vivitrol is an opioid antagonist- u probably already know it fills the receptors in ur brain and does not allow any real opiates to fill them. Kratom is not an opiate, it’s opiate-like. Now I’m not scientist but eventhough it’s not a true opiate- I believe it works on the same receptors, so if they’re filled w vivitrol, it might be useless to take it. I know when I was using, whether it was the street drugs or the suboxone, I got zero effect from kratom. My advice is: don’t do it. What I’ve seen to countless others, including myself is: I bought some kratom either trying to switch addictions or detox comfortably, I felt next to nothing from the kratom, and since I was seeking relief and/or intense opiate like high and didn’t receive it- I went back out and returned to the devils drug. I’m understanding it’s your goal to be free from all those chains, so don’t seek those artificial feel goods out. Focus on fixing the reason why u feel u need to disassociate. If it’s the fact you’ve isolated in ur using from all the love and caring people in ur life- focus on mending those relationships and forming new positive ones. If you have an underlying source of depression- only u know why u feel that way and only u know what u gotta do to fix it. I recommend for some time taking some prescribed antidepressants. I don’t like the idea of modern pharmaceuticals but there I was not very long ago drawing up concoctions of god only knows what!
I really enjoyed reading your comment. May I ask what kind of depression medicines worked best for you or someone else you know?
I use Cymbalta 90mg a day. zero side effects.
I agree with you 110% if you have a high tolerance like yourself and I, why bother I even got my medical marijuana card and there shit doesn’t do anything. Why bother, Kratom and Medical Marijuana don’t do anything. Stick to your. Medications and Real Weed.
I agree with you 110% if you have a high tolerance like yourself and I, why bother I even got my medical marijuana card and there shit doesn’t do anything. Why bother, Kratom and Medical Marijuana don’t do anything. Stick to your. Medications and Real Weed. Jon hopefully you get relief
You’re obviously doing something wrong
Hi all. I am about 56 hours into the process of kicking my opiate addiction. I have been on an off pills for several years. I’m 35. This time it was fentanyl laced pills being pushed as Percocet. I knew what they were, but found it so difficult to obtain the real thing that I didn’t care. Over the last 8 months I worked my way up to smoking around 2 1/2 pills a day. I started by only taking 1/6 of a pill per day orally. The withdrawals from this have been far worse than what I have been accustomed to. I ran out, couldn’t find any, did some research and discovered the many people telling their stories of how kratom helped them kick their opiate addiction for good. I ran to my nearest local head shop. I knew from reading online forums that this wasn’t the best idea, but I was desperate. I purchased a bali strain, and a maeng da strain. The vein color isn’t noted, and the guy at the shop had no clue. Anyway this stuff is saving my life. I have been dosing about 3 gm of maeng da every 3 hours during the day and 5 g of bali before bed. The insomnia and restlessness have always been the hardest part of withdrawal for me, and the bali has allowed me to sleep like an angel. I can still feel the withdrawals creeping through, but it has been about 90% less intense than it has felt in the past. Today is better than yesterday, and I know it only gets easier from here. I wanted to share my story because maybe it can help someone the way that reading other people’s stories has helped me. I have been self medicating extreme daytime fatigue, ADD, and depression for the last 20 years. I am still taking Ritalin xr 30mg every morning along with 1000mg of Tyrosine each day. I really believe that by trying different strains of Kratom I will be able to get off the Ritalin that I am still obtaining illicitly. As for opiates, never again. If the junk I got at the head shop is working this well, I can’t wait to try some good stuff, and experiment with the different strains. I have never been looking to get “high” I just want to live a normal life without feeling exhausted, foggy, unmotivated, and weak. I hope that maybe I have finally found something that works, and I hope anyone struggling with opiate addiction gives this a try! I know if I hadn’t found this I know I would be out searching for those little blue pills as I fight the feeling to jump out of my skin, excessive sweating and chills, and extreme stomach cramping, all while fighting the full blown panic attack at the thought that I may not be able to find any. Instead I am home sharing this story.
I wish ppl who never tried it and I mean true kratom would not comment. I took kratom for a year not only did it stop my withdrawal it got me clean and sober. No negative. Side effects coming off it either when i stopped. It does work if u get it from a rep. Source and it’s real 100% kratom.
You sir have one muthafucking fiend on your back!
It’s not the kratom itself u seek. It’s the alkaloids.. I was terribly addicted to what drug labs call standards..trust , u haven’t been high yet. The kratom will buzz u out. After about 9 months of clean.
Kratom got me off hard opiates. You just have to take enough.
Kratom does attach to m-opioid receptors so, taking it while on Suboxone or any opioid blocker will be pointless. I wasn’t a believer on kratom until I was on a month long vacation in Hawaii. I was on Suboxone for six months before my vacation and didn’t go see my doctor or refill my script for the month that I was going to be in Hawaii because I was over all the bullshit and amount of money I was spending for the treatment. I was fine for the first couple of days in Hawaii but by the third day the withdrawal started hitting me big time. I was sweating and had the chills, sneezing, yawning uncontrollably. The worst thing was the restless legs. I couldn’t fall asleep because it felt like my bones or the skin on my legs wanted to crawl off. It was the most uncomfortable feeling I’ve ever had.I talk to my brother and was trying to figure out something so I didn’t have to cancel my vacation and go back home feeling like shit. I went to a local head shop and got some Red Bail kratom. I took 3 g and laid back down at my rental condo. About a half an hour later my body was flushed with an overall sense of Well being. It’s like I close my eyes and felt 1000 times better. If You’re on Suboxone or Subutex and want to get off I recommend not taking it for two days where you just start to feel some withdrawal effects. When you start noticing the slightest withdrawal affect start taking some crate him but at low doses. People tend to think that they need to take a bunch and that the more they take the better the effects will be. This is not true as we all know the lower the dose is the more euphoric and energetic. Larger doses will be more sedating. Kratom does work….Believe in it and trust in it and don’t abuse it.
I have been on Suboxone for years. I have read a lot of articles of people saying how it helped them come off. I too have the same thinking of what you said exactly. I am at the point now where my Insurance covers it, I’m not even wasting the insane amounts of money on it anymore, but I have been on it for pretty much the past 10 years and I am just so exhausted from having to depend on a medication everyday to keep me from not being sick and to be able to function. So this gives me a little bit of hope . Thank you. How many capsules do I have to take of it? I got 2 different kinds. Bali and Super Indo Kratom and the 00 capsules. Unfortunately I don’t know much about how many capsules to take and what works best. Any advice would help . Thank you !
Yes Brooke you can get off of suboxone after very long term use,i am living proof.I was prescribed 14 mg daily for 10 years after 3 years of hydrocodone use for neck problems.Kratom does indeed make it easier to get off subs but at some point you do have to stop taking that also and i can tell you that sub.withdrawal for me was much worse and way longer than opiate withdrawal.Once withdrawal is over you can go back to kratom.No matter how much kratom you take even for extended periods the withdrawal is very mild and lasts no longer than three days.I have been totally clean of opiates since 2012 and go on and off kratom as needed.Good luck!!!
For getting off Suboxone what type of powder do you recommend? I might have f-ed up by getting red dragon. A friend recommended it and I prefer powder for it’s faster affect. Is red dragon a good starter. Will do withdrawal to start it. Have been on subs for 10 years
Use Green Maeng Da
Jon, just wanted to express appreciation for your thoughtful reply/comment to the individual seeking advice regarding their addiction.
Wow, best reply I’ve read in a long time. If you’re not a professional you should be: as a recovering addict, someone with ptsd, and a lover of knowledge you are spot on
Wow, best reply I’ve read in a long time. If you’re not a professional you should be: as a recovering addict, someone with ptsd, and a lover of knowledge you are spot on . Thank you
Naltrexone blocks mu opioid receptors, so no version of kratom will give you effects, itll just induce withdrawal symptoms.
I take naltrexone the Pill. No side effects so far
If you are taking that combination of medication then your u-opiod receptors are blocked – period. I don’t think Kratom is strong enough to break through… you may feel some stimulation but the opiod effect will not happen. Nothing will happen and certainly it will not bring on withdrawal… not sure why that was said???
if you are using these meds for drug-assisted recovery purposes then perhaps you might want to reconsider any substance that hits those receptors in a euphoric way… Heal, give yourself some time, and then re-evaluate several months or years down the road…. good luck
I took Naltrexone for a year hoping it would help my back pain. I was told to get off kratom to even start that since they would be fighting one another. The Naltrexone did not help me at all, HOWEVER, the compounding pharmacist told me later that he found that they can be taken together.