Kratom Strains And Effects
Updated Nov 11, 2021
Written By: Mark Andrews
Countless people across the world are learning about kratom in 2020. With so many strains, its important to understand which strain is right for you. Unlike synthetic opioids, kratom’s chemical composition is complex, and the effects of this composition are dynamic.
Its main alkaloids are mitragynine, paynanthine, speciociliatine, and the more minor 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-HMG). Kratom’s neurochemical complexity is echoed in its physiological effects.
It is generally understood that at low doses (< 1 gram), kratom “can boost energy and enhance mood,” whereas at higher doses kratom is sedating, and may have anxiolytic qualities.
The following table serves as a comparative base for some of the most popular strains of kratom on the market.
Click on any strain below to find more information:
Ground Leaf Strains
| Strains | Effects | Dosage |
|---|---|---|
| Bali | An ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost. Bali works somewhat differently than a traditional red kratom. Bali helps achieve a gentle energy boost while maintaining the pain relief expected of a red. Euphoric and the most classic opiate like among the strains of kratom. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Maeng Da | Energizing and stimulating with pain killing effects. Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick because of it’s specific alkaloid properties. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Bali | Similar to Bali with some red characteristics. This is a known as a versatile strain. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Vein Thai | Similar to Bali with a more classic red strain effects. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Vein Kali | Sedating and more classically opiate like. Red Kali is a more traditional red kratom offering pain relief & relaxation. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Indo | Similar to Red Kali and many other traditional strains. Red Indo is a more tame red vein strain and is often touted as ideal for mild pain relief and relaxation. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Indo | Balances pain relief and energy boosting qualities. The combination of alkaloids in Green Indo creates a longer lasting milder effect although there is not as high of a concentration of alkaloids as SGM. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Malay | This original variety of Malaysian Kratom is well known for its mood-lifting, energizing effects. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Vein Kali | A stimulating strain which also has painkilling attributes. Green Kali delivers a strong boost of energy without sacrificing any of the sought after pain relief effects. It is know for have a higher potency than Green Indo. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Kali | More euphoric or dissociating. White Vein Kali is a milder white strain known for its energizing qualities – when compared to Red Vein Kali – while still containing notable pain relief qualities. . | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Thai | White Thai may be the most stimulating of all white strains. There are however less pain relieving attributes than a red vein strain or a strain similar to Bali as a trade off. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Indo | Similar to Red Indo which is best known for its pain relief attributes. However White Vein Indo differs from the calming Red Indo by bringing a euphoric dissociative kick with it. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Borneo | Known as a uniquely high quality white strain of kratom. It has known for its long lasting, energizing effect. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Super Green Malaysian | Known for its unique ability to combine the characteristic pain relieving properties of a red strain with the energy and euphoria boost of a white strain. SGM also has some of the longest lasting effects of any kratom with smooth delivery due to the high concentration of alkaloids. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
Kratom Extracts
| Strains | Effects | Dosage |
|---|---|---|
| Ultra Enhanced Indo | Most euphoric of the extracts and works well for reducing social anxiety. UEI manages to contain a full range of effects including pain relief & relaxation with a slight energy and mood boost. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Gold Reserve Extract | Powerful extract made by applying highly concentrated kratom alkaloids back to natural kratom leaf. Gold Reserve is a highly potent extract providing a blend of stimulation and pain relief while providing full body relaxation with a notable energy boost. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| ISOL-8 Extract | ISOL-8 is an outlier and has caffeine like stimulation. ISOL-8 uniquely focuses in on the energy and stimulating effects of kratom while other extracts generally bring out a broader range of effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Ultra Enhanced Red Kali | This extract is made by blending pure alkaloids from Red Vein Kalimantan leaf with high quality Red Kali leaf. This is not made with semi-synthetic chemicals but only all natural kratom leaf alkaloidal extract. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Natural Enhanced True Thai | Made from taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction of Thai Kratom and reapplied to a Green Vein Thai leaf. This extract is a high potency version of classic Thai kratom strains notable for a mild energy boost with significant pain relief & relaxation effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Natural Enhanced White Sumatra | Created by taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction from white vein kratom and mixing it with White vein leaf. This reformulation results in a more potent version of white vein kratom with significant pain relief and relaxation effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
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Would everyone please stop saying they became addicted because of severe pain. Just say you like/liked drugs. Shit
Umm, I NEVER took pills before my scoliosis correction surgery. After that surgery, I was prescribed 180 Norco 10/325 a month for two years, and became horribly addicted to them. Wound up being forced into rehab. The pills ruined some of our lives. I guarantee that most people here didn’t “like/liked drugs” and are actually finding relief again after dealing with all the hell pharmaceuticals brought into our lifes…
Just because YOU haven’t experienced something, DOESN’T mean anyone else hasn’t.
Amen Brian!
Your spot on with that comment Brian👍
I live in pain and I am not addicted. You don’t know pain? Try living for six weeks with three titanium rods pinching down your left leg and tell me about pain. I took so many pain pills I lost count but, once corrected, I was done. Went back to my usual dosage and never had issues. And I also have scoliosis in my back. My disc blew at c-3, should’ve been paraplegic and now I have a cadaver bone in place. I live with excruciating pain in my left leg and foot, worse than the back pain 24/7 for the past two years and five months and I have never had any issues with addiction. I am constantly researching natural remedies, try different exercise techniques, therapies, learn and correct my posture; sitting – standing, etc. I don’t rely only on my meds. I dress up, do my hair and makeup and have had severe suicidal moments and still, no addictions so, I too am tired of hearing all the addiction stories. I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be cruel nor insensitive but, I feel we should all take accountability for our actions. And let’s not even talk about trauma cause I could tell you a few stories. It’s all about our mindsets. I come from the pharmaceutical industry, don’t buy into this gene theory they’ve come up with. Everyone has a predisposition to this and to that, etc, etc, etc. Nonsense. Look into the real science and study behind the theory. Our brains have the capacity to turn on and off those switches. Problem is that that it takes hard work and consistency. We live in a microwave era where we want quick solutions and for cheap.
How are you doing? I was reading about kratom and saw your story.
Love it. I have cancer and this tea has helped me. Your a true blessing. Thanks.
Your an asshole. Plain and simple. Looking down on others struggles. You must think so highly of yourself. Thinking your better than others. So you sit on forums like these and blast people for their struggles so you can feel good about yourself. If you don’t rely on anything than why are you even on here? Don’t worry I’ll wait
Brian you are 100% right on! The past 5+ years I was on 6 different prescription medications for severe back pain, including hydrocodone 10/325 4x/day. Last year my doctor closed his office and I was not able to get into another one who would keep my prescriptions the same. Probably because of the people who take advantage and abuse opiates and prescription meds. Needless to say, I found Kratom and I haven’t had to take anything else! Not even Tylenol or Advil! It has been a definite blessing!!!!!
There’s an EXTREME difference between DEPENDENCE and ADDICTION obviously hog are very un educated in that department so let me enlighten you. When your body is just dependant on a drug that is habit forming but, you don’t like two feeling or take it to get high you just have to take it because of extreme pain than you aren’t an addict. HOWEVER even if you have pain issues and abuse your prescription narcotic opioid medication because Yoh like the feeling of being high then eventually your body ad well as your brain are dependent on the high and getting better THAT Is addiction.
Sorry stupid phone does predictive text in didn’t mean hog I meant you and so on and so forth I hate using a phone for typing.
So true. There is a big difference between being addicted and abusing. And I am not judging anyone but a lot of people did not set out to be hooked on pain pills and a lot of people do just take them to get high. Either way I do encourage anyone in need to try kratom. It works for me
I’m 12 days clean off methadone and have been having too take pain pills too keep from being severely into withdrawals my question is if Im withdrawalING from opiates and methadone what’s the best strain for me too get and what medications can u not take with it
Very true!
Very well said, thank you. Therein lies the difference. I take pain meds because I am in pain, not for any reason. I can stop taking them but, I’ll kill you if you take them away, lol. I am a new user of kratom and I truly don’t care what it is as long as it takes away the pain. In all reality, I hate them. Yet, when I was on antidepressants and anti seizure medications, anxiety, etc, the withdrawal effects were awful, horrendous. I wasn’t addicted to them, my freaking body was dependent. I hated them and actually seeked the assistance of the Dr’s in order to get off of them and in still off. But, I also sought psychological help and began practicing other forms of therapy such as meditation, my faith etc. It takes dedication and hard work but, I am a testimony to the fact that it can be accomplished. There is a huge difference between the physical dependency versus the psychological dependency, let’s stop mixing the two people.
Apparently you have not experienced unrelenting pain. I am now 48, would not even take aspirin until headaches started at age 30. About age 40 finally took pharma painkillers, thankfully found kratom to replace painkillers. Have NEVER been into drugs nor addicted. Desperation for pain relief and the need to be able to function to take care of children…nothing to do with “liking” drugs.
i have never in my life even smoke mj….dont use tobacco and barely drink. I broke my tailbone for the 3rd time in my life and it would not heal. I had severe nerve pain and because my job was an office job, i sat most of my day which caused the pain to be even worse. I started taking hydrocodone just to get through my work day. When my doctor decided to try something new, my body was already physically addicted to the drug. I had to go into a full detox and it took several months to clean my system. It was the hardest thing I have ever gone through. So believe it or not Michael, some people actually use the drugs for what they are prescribed for
I’m 61 and have suffered for 20 years with arthritis in my spine and knees. Migraines, depression and panic attacks to add to the mix. I’ve tried the usual pain opiods and became addicted. After weaning myself of these prescription drugs I just suffered in silence. A month ago I discovered a web site discribing Kratom. I have a science background and was naturally skeptical. I ordered 1 ounce of premium Bali and within 2 days my pain went away 100 percent. My migraines, depression and panic attacks are gone. I’ve thrown out all my anti-depressants. I feel great and I walk 5 miles everyday while going back to school. Kratom has done wonders for me and I have recommended to all my friends. I am enjoying a full life for the first time in 20 years. I am also writing a book. Again. Of anyone has any doubts about Kratom we can talk.
I am so glad to hear this. I am 46 and have neck and back pain for years. But I just deal with it bc 9 yrs ago I went from percocet roxycontin to oxycontin I go so hooked I put myself in a methdone clinic for 2 yrs 70 mg. Then was dosed off in 2 wks time. Worse withdrawal ever 2 mths of hell. But had been clean 5 yrs. And I started pre menopause I can deal with my everyday pain but every 2 1/2 to 3 wks I have pain worse than labor pain for 5 to 7 days. I have been to several doctors whose only solution was to give me perocet and opana 15. Which I still had to take motrin and aleve on top of my prescriptions and would still feel the pain it only dulled it. A friend who went through opana withdrawal and told me about kratom bali. I tried it on to see if it would easy the pain alittle. WOW. IT ACTUALLY WORKED. No period pain at all after taking it. And it seems to have shorten the length and I only have one every 28-30 days. I know longer take any prescriptions for pain or even over the counter pain meds. I keep a jar of kratom bali powder on hand and when I start to feel pms coming on I start taking 1/2 to 1 tsp every 5 to 6 hrs until my period stops now usually about 3 days. I have had no withdrawl from kratom. Hope this helps someone out there. I just wish I had found it sooner. It works for my pain and I have had several friends use it for withdrawal and are still opioid free.
Wait, Missy, it makes your period stop? I have been using Kratom daily for a few years and have stopped having a period… I’m only 33. Didn’t realize that was a side effect :/
Hi, I’m 60 and out of desperation I was researching poppies and how to grow them to maybe make my own pain medicine. Somehow a link for Kratom came up and I have been Youtubing and googling all evening. Oh my, if this for real I will be so happy. I am in such pain due to arthritis so I can’t wait to order some but have already determined one must be careful when choosing a vendor. May I ask who you use? May I ask what kind, red, white or green. Also, I am curious about my daughter’s situation. She is hyperthyroid so she has anxiety and rage. Would Kratom help her and can she take it while nursing her baby? Thank you for your help.
Candice, hi. I m quite read up on kratom use now, I had the same questions as you, so I will pass it on. For pain, red vein is best, Bali/borno usually, but red thai is good also. These have effects similar to that of opioids, but are NOT actually narcotic. White and green are more along the energetic not sedating kind, but green melay also is reported to be good for pain, just less sedating. As far as nursing the baby, you won’t find anyone who will recommend or condone this as kratom is not approved for human consumption by the FDA. There are charts all over the place that define types and various effects, the best thing you can do is to keep reading. The best advice I ever got, was to be careful of sites/vendors that don’t have a reputation OFF or away from their own site. Visit forums and discussion boards that are independent from any one source or vendor. This is good because members post experiences without bias, and vendors must meet standards in order to be included.
hey I wanted to know a little more about kratom, I bought some and don’t really see a difference
May I ask who you ordered from? I am 62, have suffered severe back pain for the past 20 years. I have had 2 spinal surgeries. I still have a damaged disc in my neck, middle spine & lower spine. I also have osteoarthritis and carpal tunnel. I am currently on Vicodin. I would love an alternative to the Vicodin. It doesn’t help much at this point. I have neuropathy in my spine/back and sleep very little. I have tried the premium Bali capsules. The site I ordered from said the capsules are 600 mg and to start with 4-8 capsules. I did and after 8 capsules I still did not get any relief. I am sick of taking medicines. I get so depressed with the daily living of eating pills. I was also taking something for depression and recently quit taking it because of the side effects. From what I have read people said the red vein help the most for pain. Is this true? How much do you use? What you read on one site another site contradicts. I would love to go for a walk again without pain. It’s impossible to enjoy the little things in life at this point like a walk. I don’t know who to order from that is legit.
I have scoliosis, arthritis in my neck, auto immune disease called H.S.,depression ,anxiety , two young children and husband. I’m 25 but feel like I’m dying from pain. I heard about kratom and want to try it. I smoke mj but it doesn’t take the pain away or give me energy. Maybe it’s time for a change?
I’ve been taking kratom now for a year and its made my life better.I was addicted to painkillers due to a back injury and they were rough to come of off. But the question I want to ask is why do people choose Bali over maeng da and other stronger strains of kratom?? I like maeng da alot,but its too expensive on the website I order from. I was ordering white vein Borneo 1.3% mitrayganine. Then 2 weeks later I ordered 4oz of super indo 1.9% mitrayganine. But to me the white vein Borneo seemed better why is that?? I would like opinions so please reply. And which strain is the best to go for. Thanks
i started have back pain at 16 when i was 18 i learned i have a degenerative low spine along with rhuematoid arthris with a 2 years later i got into and accident burn both my hands, my left leg at 3500 degrease. i damaged all those nerves and also have fibromyalga. and along with my spine i have to take 3 60mg ms contins, 4 10mg hydrocodines ever day include a 200mcg fentanyl patch every 3 days. i am 24 years old. . i hate taking pills. and thats a main difference between addicts and people who actually need to take suck hacore shit
OMG, thank you for that comment! I used to be a pharmaceutical representative and I represented Ultracet/Ultram (also duragesic patch) and I just want to scream every time I read someone saying they are or were addicted to it. Ughhhh. I have been using opiates since 2008 and I do not have, nor have ever had any issues with addiction. In 2014 I had a surgery gone wrong and for six weeks lived with a rod pinching the nerves in my lower left back side. There were no amount of pain killers on the planet that could relieve that pain. I took a huge amount of pills during that time and even my mother accused me of being an addict. When she found out what was really wrong via x-rays she actually apologized. Once the rod was refused I went back to the regular amount I took before. Even now, after the revision having been unsuccessful, I still don’t have issues with my meds. I go through days where I just don’t feel like taking them without a hitch and the funny/ironic thing is that my mom and boyfriend are the first ones to get mad at me and tell me to take my meds; the difference is, I don’t take pain killers for any other reason than just that: to kill pain. Hell, I sometimes try to take a whole bunch in order to see what this whole addiction I hear so much about is and, nothing, no addictions. But, then again, I’m done with all the mental, depressive anxiety, etc issues. I have a positive attitude, I eat as healthy as possible, I quit smoking because I just didn’t feel like smoking anymore (smoker for many years and I liked it, never a hand shaking smoke stinking chain smoker I often see), I meditate and pray and I’m not anxious about anything, for God’s sake; no drama in my life. Why is everyone so anxious and depressed??? I’ve been there and got help and got off all the meds and I’m fine. You just have to keep up at it, it’s like going to the gym. Nowadays, it seems like everyone wants someone else to resolve their issues or a miracle pill to make it all go away. Ummm, no. Everyone has issues. Get off your damn ass, stop feeling sorry for yourself, change your attitude and mindset and look for natural healthy alternatives. Stop blaming drugs for your issues, you are the common denominator. I mean, are we really living in a society of such weak minded individuals? You like using drugs and how they make you feel, end of story but, please let’s just stop with the pity parties. And now, of course, I can only imagine how I’m going to most likely get attacked for writing this and get all sorts of negative comments….
I see it as this:
Physical addiction is when you take pain meds for PAIN, for an extended period of time, you will need to he weened off. Your body becomes dependent upon them- this does not mean you are an “addict” (in the classic sense) but anyone who has a bit of knowledge of how the body works will understand that if you suddenly stop, you will have withdrawals- terrible flu like symptoms, ect.
Then there’s psychological addiction. I believe this is when you take pain meds to get HIGH, even though you no longer have pain. This is what happens to many people who become addicts. If they are no longer able to get the pills from doctors, they turn to the black market. When they can no longer afford them off the street, some turn to heroin.
HUGE difference between needing them for pain and wanting them to get high.
If you have the psychological addiction, you also have the physical addiction and will go through withdrawal- that’s just basic knowledge.
I have chronic pain and will not list all my symptoms, because quite frankly, reading everyone’s illnesses and injuries bore the shit out of me.
Become familiar with the disease model of addiction. Fact, addiction is a brain disease. Fact, if you use pain meds longer than two to three days the risk of addiction increases. Fact, if you get one refill of pain med you are addicted. An individual can be addicted 2 something and not abused it. Opiate addiction occurs frequently after surgery, injury or in old age. With a little research you will discover that most people addicted to opiates don’t want to take them any longer, but the physical withdrawal is too much. So they continue and it becomes a vicious circle. The fault lies with the creators of opiate medication. They knew the addictive quality of this medication and the public was not informed. Doctors were prescribing it like aspirin and now we are in an opiate crisis. People don’t choose to become an addict or alcoholic, for that matter. And there are levels of addiction from early addiction to Chronic addiction. Withdrawal symptoms change with the degree of addiction, the amount of relapse, and what kind of and how many drugs the individual has taken
Well aren’t you lucky, now you should work on being so judgmental and self righteous. Your situation is not everyone else’s situation. You sound rude, arrogant and ignorant in my opinion for someone who claims to so know so much about subject. Pray and meditate for more compassion. Focus on having gratitude you didn’t experience addiction or where able to get past it instead of spouting out your opinions as if they where facts regarding other people’s experience with pain, pain medication and addiction. Yes other people have opinions as well.
Hey,
I have multiple myeloma. Terminal cancer you idiot. I take it for pain. People like you have no clue what suffering is. And the government is making it work. Flashback to Germany 1936.
A dear friend of mine has metastatic lung cancer now in her liver, and she suspects her spine as well. She is taking immunity-therapy treatments and has oxcycodone for pain but taken as prescribed every six hours it barely touches the pain. She is dying. I’m looking for anything that can help her. I know almost nothing about Kratom and the store by me doesn’t seem to know very much either. She. Is in her mid seventies and just needs some relief. Can’t someone just give me a simple answer as to what I should buy for her to try?
Pardon me, your ignorance is showing.
You are such an idiot…
I totally agree. I started taking kratom because I was addicted to heroin. But the kratom did save my life. I do take it on a daily basis and I have no urge for heroin and I never will. Kratom literally saved my life. But I do agree with the fact that people are saying they’re using it for pain when an actual reality they’re using it because they were addicted to painkillers or heroin. Kratom
was actually made just for people that are addicts.
Hello everyone. I have a question and I’m sorry because I’m a kratom newbie. I have multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia and chronic pain. I’ve been on percocet for a a year now. I hate taking the percocet for many reasons such as the agony of getting the prescription for me, jumping from pharmacy to another and making me look like a pill popper. Anyways so i came across kratom and i have purchased white vein kratom, green vein kratom, maeng da and super borneo red vein (that’s how they were called on the website) so my question is which these stains is best for fatigue and which is best for mood and euphoria and which is best for pain. Thanks everyone and i appreciate it.
I’m a couple of months into my Kratom use, i have back pain, depression and fatigue.
I have heard that some of the effects are different for different people but for my pain, I use red, for energy white and green and Ive had my best euphoric moments on green and red. I would recommend mixing strains until you find the best effect. Sometimes I experience no pain at all (amazing feeling) and feel very very Euphoric on red and green mix.
Good luck!
I am 61 and suffer from arthritis in my spine and all my joints. Also depression and anxiety due to the pain. I started using Premium Bali in August. I have been 80 % pain free since using this wonderful herb. I have switched to Red Bali and have had no depression or panic attacks. This is a God send. Good luck to you.
I use bali for pain and take vitamin b 12 for fatigue. I haven’t tried the other types since bali worked for me right from the beginning
It’s good to see that people are using this as a sort of nicotine-like substance in terms of using it to stray away from hardcore drugs
“Nicotine like substance”?? Where did you get this conclusion? Kratom is from the coffee plant family. I have never smoked anything and cannot stand even being around anything smoked. I have been using kratom for a few years now for unbelievable chronic pain and anxiety caused by physical pain. It has been a lifesaver! It is no more addictive than coffee. And way less effects than cannabis (which is literally lifesaver to many), but for me, the high effect is not enjoyable, actually scarey.
Kratom, is NOT a nicotine like substance
My wife found this online and we used it to kick Heroin. This stuff worked so well I was wondering if I was actually getting opiates out of my system. You can take This stuff before the pian sets in and then after 24 hrs you can do Subs. We have not gone back it has been a little over a MONTH. I tell you one thing this is a lot cheaper than Heroin. We used Bali, the stuff is a miricle herb. If you are looking to quit opiates this is the way to go for the first 24hrs and after 2-3 days of subs. When you are ready get about 4oz’s per person of Bali to get you through the worst of it with what is, compared to not having it, very little pain.
Hi Mike,
what kind of Bali did you and your wife use?
I’ve been tapering off a 30 year methadone Tx.and could really use the info…
Thank you ahead of time…
I finished weaning off mdone a year ago. Third time, first time with Kratom. I suffer from paws and Kratom has made all ill effects disappear. ZERO cravings. I have an awesome source. My favorites are red maeng da, white horn maeng da and yellow indo. No way would I be free from pharma without it.
Hey everyone, I just ordered a bunch of kratom from mood and mind. My brother is using it as a recovery from heroine. Ive tried a couple and my favorites are the more stimulating stranes. Can anyone tell me the most energizing types they have tried? Thank you so much. Or suggesions for my brother.
Jennifer
i just heard about kratom. I’ve researched and still don’t know about strains and such. I’ve struggled witch interstitial cystitis, fibromyalgia, migraines for 20 years. Three years ago my hip hurt so bad. I fell from the roof onto concrete. I needed a full hip replacement and back surgery. Never had that done and still can’t lay on my sides or back. I just thought that was painful. Almost two years ago I was dx with Trigeminal Neuralgia, it’s called the suicide disease as the pain is the worst known to mankind. Now in TN type 1 which is the 5 th nerve GPN which is the 10th nerve damaged in my brain. This kind of pain don’t come and go. It’s constant 24/7. I’m no longer able to drive, talk much. Talking and eating and brushing my teeth are a nightmare. I’m not on opiates or pain meds. I just exist. Can anyone help me with what kind of kratom to order.
Liz, I do not have the type of pain you describe, but I suffer chroinic pain for many many years, and had my fill of any perscription relief,these destroy your soul, and in the end leave you in as much pain, my advise, stay with what god gave us, in it’s purest forms, I am not the world foremeost expert, so take this advise with a grain of Kratom, so to speak, ” Kratom works for me in most part ” , it won’t always cut it for somemone as bad off as you seem to be, but I bet makes things easier foir you ?, for t I felt bad to read your commnets, and you said you just exist, poor dear, so I felt complelled to offer you what I know
For Pain best types ( From my experiences) Maeng Da, or Bali, or like I do a blend of both, start off with one Tea spoon, in a water bottle with some OJ,or water, shake it hard, then just down it, chase it with wtaer , and I hope it brings you some relief, or if the taste is a real prob for you ?, ” and it is a bit bitter for sure”, mix your spoon fuill into 1/2 cup apple sause, and cinimon if you like, this is real easy then , having said this I chase in water only , but I am used to it, and not a weak person, with taste, Liz try the 1 spoon move to 1.5 up to maybe 3 in a year, but everyone differnet, with Kratom be patient, often less is more, don’t get ripped off, my fav sourse lately is Kratom.US, but a 1/4 KG of each white and Maeng Da, for $25 per 1/4 KG , this is $50 toal , and this is along time to have releif for a few $, and the other things that reduces pain, that I endorse, eat more live food, less bread, less packaged junk, drink green tea, and chaga tea, take N.A.C Supplimnets and a good natural plant based one a day vit, stretch/exercise best you can each day, keep your mnuscles fired up till bed time, drink more clean water, and sleep on a good quality matress, my fav is Domeo 6500, memory coil type,you can Google any of my advise and please dop, use your best judgement and caution with any herbs or suppliments, and last but not least a little prayer each day will help you too, Please take care Liz and good luck to you, PV
So sorry all the pain you are in. I had Trigeminal Nueralgia…it is the worst, no escape, 24/7 pain. As you said, called Suicide disease for good reason. The location of the pain is unrelenting and controls you. I pretty much stopped talking to anyone, driving unbearable, etc.
Do you have root canal, wisdom teeth pulled? And/or “silver” fillings, actually mercury? These all are what causes my pain and more. A severe biofilm infection. I was able to get rid of at least the Nueralgia and horrid headaches. I still have ways to go, hard to remove this mess from jaws and rest of body, but I am doing it. Research those dental procedures with Dr. Huggins, Dr. Mercola, Dr. Weston Price. Also go to Facebook group NICO/Cavitations and Mercury Detox Group both have many with all the ailments you listed.
Fresh-kratom.com and
buy-kratom.com both with that dash in them, have great prices and quality. Buy-kratom has a sample pack for $20 that has all thier strains so you can test out which works best for you. Red Borneo is great choice for pain without the side effects some experience from Bali Red, which is closest to actual painkillers. I have never experienced any side effects from the Bali or any kratom, but everyone is different. Good luck!
I found kratom after having to quit smoking pot for work. It has helped me with energy, mood, and stress, as well as relieving pain from heavy excercise at work (avg. 12 miles walking per day, so pretty sore afterward)
I am very impressed.
I find with the powder , i place it UNDER my tongue, (this also aids in a heavier impact, due to the way the mouth absorbs things)
then i drink any sweet drink, letting a little kratom wash down with each swallow.
great tips everyone. I have family that I love very much addicted to opiates, and hate seeing the cycle they are on. Im gled this has helped some, and wish I knew how to help my family to try to switch to kratom (mitrogyna speciosa)
Mahalo
I just ordered some Red Bali powder. Is it better to let it absorb under the tongue? Do you need as much? I have been using the capsules.
1-2 tblspns- Maeng da Red
2 oz- high quality, warm h2o
Desired amount of honey and/or
Lemon
Stir, stir, repeat
Toss it back, or add to your favorite brand of herbal tea or coffee. Cheers!
I have rheumatoid arthritis, Crohns disease and fibromyalgia. I was prescribed a large amount of pain meds for about 5 years. I was still barely functional. Several months ago I started kratom and now have am off all pain meds. I like Red Vain Borneo and Bali. I use around 2-3 tsps as needed through the day. It helps with the pain better than any narcotic and I have tried everything. There must be some sort of anti-inflammatory action in it. I get full blood counts and inflammatory markers drawn every few weeks and they have all been great. I have problems with my liver counts from the meds I have to take. I can’t drink or take Tylenol because of this. I was worried the kratom would do the same but so far my enzymes are fine. If you have liver problems its probably a good idea to have your liver function checked. This stuff has helped so much. I wish I would have found it 5 years ago. I use the toss and wash but add water first, toss in a tsp at a time. I won’t say the taste is great, but it’s not horrible. It is very much trial and error. Start slow and add tsp at a time, wait 20-30 min between doses.
Hi Guys! I go with 3.5 grams of Central Maui Trading Company’s signature Maeng Da in the morning and I’m good all day through work. I have severe neck and back problems due to a car accident I was in as a small child and can barely stand the pain without my daily kratom routine. I do just mix it with water in a bottle and down it. On most nights I make a tea with some lemon, fresh ginger and raw honey with there Red Horn strain (4 grams) and can sleep peacefully through the night. Hope this helps a bit! See ya!!
My favorite are the red stains. I like the sedating effect personally but I always switch it up. My favorite is Red Vein Borneo from kratomcrazy.com