Kratom Strains And Effects
Updated Nov 11, 2021
Written By: Mark Andrews
Countless people across the world are learning about kratom in 2020. With so many strains, its important to understand which strain is right for you. Unlike synthetic opioids, kratom’s chemical composition is complex, and the effects of this composition are dynamic.
Its main alkaloids are mitragynine, paynanthine, speciociliatine, and the more minor 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-HMG). Kratom’s neurochemical complexity is echoed in its physiological effects.
It is generally understood that at low doses (< 1 gram), kratom “can boost energy and enhance mood,” whereas at higher doses kratom is sedating, and may have anxiolytic qualities.
The following table serves as a comparative base for some of the most popular strains of kratom on the market.
Click on any strain below to find more information:
Ground Leaf Strains
| Strains | Effects | Dosage |
|---|---|---|
| Bali | An ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost. Bali works somewhat differently than a traditional red kratom. Bali helps achieve a gentle energy boost while maintaining the pain relief expected of a red. Euphoric and the most classic opiate like among the strains of kratom. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Maeng Da | Energizing and stimulating with pain killing effects. Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick because of it’s specific alkaloid properties. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Bali | Similar to Bali with some red characteristics. This is a known as a versatile strain. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Vein Thai | Similar to Bali with a more classic red strain effects. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Vein Kali | Sedating and more classically opiate like. Red Kali is a more traditional red kratom offering pain relief & relaxation. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Red Indo | Similar to Red Kali and many other traditional strains. Red Indo is a more tame red vein strain and is often touted as ideal for mild pain relief and relaxation. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Indo | Balances pain relief and energy boosting qualities. The combination of alkaloids in Green Indo creates a longer lasting milder effect although there is not as high of a concentration of alkaloids as SGM. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Malay | This original variety of Malaysian Kratom is well known for its mood-lifting, energizing effects. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Green Vein Kali | A stimulating strain which also has painkilling attributes. Green Kali delivers a strong boost of energy without sacrificing any of the sought after pain relief effects. It is know for have a higher potency than Green Indo. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Kali | More euphoric or dissociating. White Vein Kali is a milder white strain known for its energizing qualities – when compared to Red Vein Kali – while still containing notable pain relief qualities. . | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Thai | White Thai may be the most stimulating of all white strains. There are however less pain relieving attributes than a red vein strain or a strain similar to Bali as a trade off. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Vein Indo | Similar to Red Indo which is best known for its pain relief attributes. However White Vein Indo differs from the calming Red Indo by bringing a euphoric dissociative kick with it. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| White Borneo | Known as a uniquely high quality white strain of kratom. It has known for its long lasting, energizing effect. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
| Super Green Malaysian | Known for its unique ability to combine the characteristic pain relieving properties of a red strain with the energy and euphoria boost of a white strain. SGM also has some of the longest lasting effects of any kratom with smooth delivery due to the high concentration of alkaloids. | 1/2 – 3 teaspoons |
Kratom Extracts
| Strains | Effects | Dosage |
|---|---|---|
| Ultra Enhanced Indo | Most euphoric of the extracts and works well for reducing social anxiety. UEI manages to contain a full range of effects including pain relief & relaxation with a slight energy and mood boost. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Gold Reserve Extract | Powerful extract made by applying highly concentrated kratom alkaloids back to natural kratom leaf. Gold Reserve is a highly potent extract providing a blend of stimulation and pain relief while providing full body relaxation with a notable energy boost. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| ISOL-8 Extract | ISOL-8 is an outlier and has caffeine like stimulation. ISOL-8 uniquely focuses in on the energy and stimulating effects of kratom while other extracts generally bring out a broader range of effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Ultra Enhanced Red Kali | This extract is made by blending pure alkaloids from Red Vein Kalimantan leaf with high quality Red Kali leaf. This is not made with semi-synthetic chemicals but only all natural kratom leaf alkaloidal extract. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Natural Enhanced True Thai | Made from taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction of Thai Kratom and reapplied to a Green Vein Thai leaf. This extract is a high potency version of classic Thai kratom strains notable for a mild energy boost with significant pain relief & relaxation effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
| Natural Enhanced White Sumatra | Created by taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction from white vein kratom and mixing it with White vein leaf. This reformulation results in a more potent version of white vein kratom with significant pain relief and relaxation effects. | 1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf) |
HELP!!!
Hi I’m hoping someone can assist me and tell me what kind and how much to buy in order to replace my pain killers rx pills! I currently take 4 Hydrocodone pills at a time in the 10-325 dosage strength and sometimes I have to take 4 more of them later in the day and I don’t want to keep doing this to me, my liver or my budget let alone it’s becoming so hard to get the scripts for enough to taken at a months supply in the dosages I seem to be needing. I need help to know which type, how much to buy and how often I should take Kratom in order to stop taking this rx and place my first order immediately. Please reply- please help me choose and educate me!! Also after reading the comments on this site, I thought “capsules” was what I should buy but now it seems most everyone here is mentioning “powder” instead. I need to have the pain relief but I do also like the initial feeling the rx gives me as well. Please reply and help me.
Cris I do not take pain meds unless i have pain or prescribe by a doctor but I have been trying the different strains, white, red, and green. Here is what I have been dosing (my wife too with similar effects) and the effects I have received:
Plantation Maeng Da – 1st time dose was 2 teaspoons – heavy head effect to the point of being uncomfortable when moving. When I sat down and stayed still, it was very calming and relaxing. Once the head effect went away, about 45 minutes after sitting, i was super calm and relaxed. The entire experience lasted about 3.5 hours
2nd dose was 1.5 teaspoons and will say that it was perfect for me. Relaxed, calm, and the ability to think with a clear mind.
*Note – this will be good substitute for my ADHD med to get me over the hump when I run out of my prescription.
White vein indo – 1.5 Teaspoons – about half of the effect of the Plantation Maeng Da – will up my dose by .5 teaspoons next dose
*Note – this will be a good substitute for my ADHD med to get me over the hump when I run out of my prescription.
Green Bali – 2 Teaspoons – similar to what you would achieve with ADHD medicine without the grind or edge – I felt alert but the wife had other effects of euphoria but when she took a single teaspoon, no effect at all.
Red Vein Maeng Da – 1.5 Teaspoons, dosing as I write this and this strain / variety feels like I took a pain killer – i feel super relax, very chill and would probably say this strain/variety would give you the pain killer substitute you are looking for – i can feel this strain throughout my body unlike the others strain/variety i have been experimenting with. Even a little heaviness where my body is being pushed into the couch. I dont feel like I am gonna crash or goto sleep but relaxed.
One consistency I have experienced is the calming effect and elimination of any anxiety.
My write-up may not be what you or anyone else may experience. I am on the path of finding an alternative to prescription medication for ADHD but in the process have found other uses of kratom.
og bali powder.
5-10 grams 2-3x Daily, worked for me, and I was on pain meds for years.you may want to lower the dose for your needs, as my tolerance skyrocketed after 9 years of meds. and high dose. 200mg oxycodone daily.
so I would say 100 grams should get you through the first week of hell. best thing I ever did!
best of luck to you
Going into around 35th hour after last opiate use (last use 2 bags *****n, 7 total within past 24 hrs. active use). Took 8-10 grams Bali at 22nd hour of w/d, with grapefruit juice. Some anxiety, mild uncomfort, chills, and no sleep at all…but not horrible. Took 12 grams same (Bali) about 35 minutes ago, no grapefruit juice. Feel less degree of everything I felt before, anxiety, disomfort, chills, still not sleepy at all, but able to move, etc. This is NOT how I would feel at this point ‘on my own’, ‘cold turkey’, IN ANY WAY AT THIS POINT. Absolutely by this point it would have well started to be extremely uncomfortable and nearing almost unbearable anxiety and stomach upset. I attempted this about two weeks ago dosing every six hours and made it to about 72 hours but folded and used. I have been through this many times before, over my life. I am actually hopefull and looking forward to going through it and no way in any form have I ever felt ‘well’ this long without to feel that way. I have used suboxone unsuccessfully about 10 years ago for about 48-72 hours if I recall, then using again. Good luck, everyone, in this boat with me. I will update as I progress…or, ‘digress’…hopefully not, one hour, MINUTE, a time.
Scarlett L.
Hi love.
Im living with severe mental illness and chronic pain.
Just released from hospital after a successful 8 minute death.
I was told to try Kratom and nurse couldnt give me mote information besides “get the happy energetic mood enhancing pain relief one”.
I suffer from occasional insomnia. Im at 300MG a day of vicodin 10/325 every 4 hours. When itd an all night or two, Im at 600MG.
I am going to a specialized after I get my kids and i into a shelter.
You sound like me pain wise and such.
But due to my mental disability I have to ask if you dont mind…what EXACT TYPE OF KRATOM AND STRAND??? I am using 6g of premium bali atm and not helping…
Jackii: I use Bali, Original Bali, plain old Bali, there’s 101 (it seems) out there, but Bali is from all I’ve read and such, the “most opiate-like”…I think you should start with 5-8 grams and adjust from there. I’m doing amazingly well at this point, my other posts are scattered around (Scarlett, Kaiy, is I) if you read them you’ll have a better idea. I used a RED VEINED BORNEO and it made me anxious, tremendously so, I tried it a few times, to be sure that was the reason, and it was. Near panic attack anxiety. Look for sedating strains, pain relieving strains, Bali I recommend and don’t have much or any at all experience with all the others, but I chose correctly.What a difference in my life. Since you need pain relief, you may need more but listen, order some Bali. Take it on an empty stomach, mix it with fruit juice I think is best way. Kratom withdrawals to me seem like a cold, and a sluggish feeling, but nothing NOTHING like withdrawals from pain meds, etc. Good luck to you. Let me know how it goes.
PS Jackii Quinn: PLEASE do not stop any of your psych meds without a doctor knowing and tapering you. Kratom has given me a very calm peaceful mood but things like prescribed antidepressants, etc., really need and must be managed by a doctor. Taper down carefully. I’m speaking not from personal experience on that but from first hand witness experience, be careful. I wish you well, I’m glad you’re here now and ok
Hey Chris,
I am 57 and just stopped a 24 year Chronic pain med dependence with the help of Kratom. I am currently taking 1 measuring tsp every 4 to 6 hr of Red Vein Thai in the afternoon and evening. I start the morning with the same dosage of Plantation Bali. I hope this helps. I have only tried one vendor and felt I found a reputable one. Do your homework and find a good one. My method for swallowing Kratom works unbelievably well. I use the very best Promise Land chocolate milk. I put a little in my mouth then tap the teaspoon on my bottom teeth (a plastic spoon) the kratom falls in followed by by a mouthful of chocalate milk, swish and swallow. Then rinse the remainder down.
I hope this helps.
Hi this is ‘L. Kaiy’. I just read your entry, that is AMAZING and wonderful I am so happy for you! That’s such a long long time to be on pain medication. Blesses to you!
What I do is measure 3to4teaspoon of Bali and Kali together in a small container with lid with warm water very little enough to mix make it a little watery not paste and down it a shot lol and chase it with out ever I’m drinking I like it with my coffee
Kratom tastes nasty but in my and my husbands experience, capsules just don’t cut it. To me it seems like the effect is so blunted or not there at all.
I stumbled on to kratom because i wanted to find something close to rx. Painkillers to help me detox. I bought bali and maeng da and i love them both. MAeng da i take about 2.5 grams more or less the capsules are 600 mg and i take four of them in the morning on an empty stomache with a warm tea and the give me energy and help tons with my mood. In the evening i take the same amount of bali same way and keeps my mood the same happy and at peace helps with pain and relaxes me but not to the point of nodding off. Thank goodness for this plant i have been able to detox and not have withdrawls.
I do the same. But for the some extreme pain I have I do 2 level tsp of maeng da in the morning and and 2 level tsp of Bali in the evening. (I am treating skin cancer with topical BEC5 and it stings and burns, and I need these in my system before I change the bandage and reapply the cream. It works like a dream and I find I am more productive and sleep like a dream. 🙂
I am trying to get of the pain med’s i ask my doctor about the kratom he told it would not work I done seeing my doctor please some one let me know if this work’s I lost my leg’s 4 year’s ago I am walking but I have a very bad back . I know if i stop the pain med’s i will get sick some one told me to try this i just what to make sure it work’s
Hello, I just wanted to say yes it does work you will love it I promise
I was on dilaudid 32-40mg a day and got off cold turkey and started the Kratom within a day or so and it was a life saver. I am completely off the pain meds and only on Kratom. My life is so much better. I think I am starting to get addicted to the Kratom though, lol. I’ll take this over narcotics anyday.
Hi Bud, I just started Bali today and I’ve been on 30 mg Roxies for 5 years, I have not felt so good in years. I’ve been seeing pain specialists for years and my life revolved around pain, Doctors and pain meds also laying on a heating pad constantly. I started the Bali at 10 this morning and didn’t even think about my meds and my mood has been awesome from no pain. God Bless and Best of Luck to you.
Hey bud,
Amputee also here. Going with Bali and any red vein variety. Kratom is the way to go. I bought a capsule machine on EBay for $20 and powder from Mindandmood.com. I do suggest that site. Amazing vendor.
I have up until now, been experimenting with different strains of Kratom capsules, however, just received my first order of a Sampler Powder Pack that my friend suggested. What is the best way to take the powder? He uses “toss and wash” but I’d just like to know if it can be dissolved in warm water like tea or disguised in any other type of beverage? I’m anxious to try the powder as I have had chronic pain and am trying to get off of Rx pain killers, as many of you have said. Thanks for any advice…
I shake mine up in OJ and drink.
I do the same EXACT thing with club 13 red vein Bali powder and 8 oz of o.j. It’s been such a blessing in my life. I was being prescribed 200 30mg oxy’s for pain & 90 10 mg valium. I just wish insurance would pay for kratom…that would be nice!!😉
I agree about insurance because my husband and I both use it and it can get pretty pricey. It would be great if they covered it but I doubt that will ever happen.
Hi Christi!
I’m really glad to hear that the Kratom is working so well for you! As for me, I’m in a bind.
I’ve got major pain due to an inoperable cyst + injured jaw / TMJ due to the cyst. (I was a singer—Now it’s a challenge to eat and even talk at times.) I’m trying Kratom because right now I can’t find find a doctor who will prescribe. I wish it was stronger. Unfortunately my pain is really major. I was thinking that maybe a mix of oxys (if I can get them again) and Kratom might do it. I always hear stories like yours about doctors who will prescribe heavy duty amounts of oxys (like what you described) but can’t find one for myself. I’m in the MA/NH area, which may have something to do with it. I was just wondering if your doctor is by any chance in the northeast US area, and if he’s/she’s still in business? I really think I need the script…but would like to take both the pills and the Kratom and see what happens. My insurance will only cover the pills, of course. I hope to hear from you. God Bless.
I mixed my white maeng da approx 1tsp in chocolate pudding! Worked pretty good. I have a very bad back, and prefer kratom over the RX pain killers!
Hi jessica, I also suffer from a bad back and fibromyalgia. I’ve been researching the different types of kratom and can’t decide which would be best for me. If you’re open to it, I’d definitely like to talk about your experience with kratom.
I think bali is pretty good for pain and helps you feel calm and at peace. I take 3 grams and works really good without putting me out.
This stuff will clump up in cold drinks like OJ, so here’s what I do. Put your kratom in a mug with a nice spoonful of sugar and a couple mint leaves or mint teabag, then pour boiling water over it, let it sit a minute, then toss in a coupe ice cubes and drink it down. The mint and sugar actually make it taste good, just be sure to stir a couple times as you drink to make sure you get all the powder down.
Hi, I take Club 13 Red Vein Bali (powder) for my pain & use 8 ounces of o.j.. You just have to shake well & drink it down. I’ve never had a problem!😉 God bless!
I mix powder with cocoa and xylitol (sweetener – you could use whatever to sweeten), add a bit of hot water to dissolve everything into a syrup – add milk. I hardly taste the kratom in chocolate milk. You could use almond, rice or soy milk if you don’t do dairy.
I put mine in a little super hot water to dissolve, stir and then add a little cold water and chug it quickly.
I add mine to peppermint tea
It all seems to be a hit n miss at this level. I hope to find my regular dosage soon. Thanks much for experienced advise.
i bought green maeng da premum powder. will that cause euphoria and kill pain? i need a bit of both and was wondering how much to take…
Yes it will. I bought the green and white maeng da today and I have chronic pain. Helped so much!! I think I’m my opinion the white is better than the green maeng da:)
I also in dosage wise took bout two teaspoons. But I took 1tsp of the white and 1tsp of the green.
Yes and premium Bali.meant daand Malay these work with pain happy mood and a high like feeling it’s great
I take the white gold 1 g and it has me kicking like Bruce lee
I was told that 1/2 teaspoon is equal to 2 grams. You are saying 1 teaspoon is equal to 2 grams. Can you please tell me which is correct.
Just buy a cheap, digital scale. I am utilizing Kratom to get off of my Hydrocodone addiction. Prescribed, but I don’t like taking them anymore. Annoying cycle. Anyways, it works perfectly and I take a combination of Red Thai and White Maeng Da. 4g Red Thai and 2-3g of the White Maeng Da together. But yeah, for all purposes, you’d really need a scale so you can keep your doses precise and controlled. Most efficient way to medicate.
1 t. = 4 grams
Not completely true…no offense Diana 🙂 so please dont take it like im being rude bc def not my,intention..just want to,clear a few things up. It all depends on the strain,quality,if its compacted powder, how finely milled it is and fluffy etc etc..also if you want to b more accurate use a bakers plastic teaspoon n get a cheap scale.measure whatever your scooping it with while its empty first, then scoop whatever amount and the difference is amount in the teaspoon,,,you will notice that just finely milled powder can range from roughly 1.5g-4g depending on product n density.: ) hope this helps a little more…this way you know precisely how much your taking and not guesssing.i plastic teaspoon will most likelly hold more if its not level (which is way more than a teaspoon) a typical teaspoon should be 2gbut again density n compactedness play a big role..scooping up a teaspoon. Of sugar will obviously weight more than kraytom unless the k is packed to the max..give it a try!!! Be safe everyone!!!
When I weighed mine 1 tsp equaled slightly more than 2 grams
I asked my supplier and she said 1 tsp equals 2.5 grams. Every tsp is going to be slightly different.
I use mitragyna speciosa for severe chronic pain. I previously took Rx’d opioids for 10+ years. I made the choice to taper myself down, and then go off them. My choice, not the doctor’s. Though I had no psychological addiction to my pain meds, I definitely had a physical tolerance. I didn’t find speciosa until I had gone through WDs and PAWs. I take it almost daily now, as I choose to take it over narcotics and I’m almost 57, so who cares. 😉 It kicks my pain in the butt, and I never allow myself to take more than MY standard (described in last paragraph).
AND YES, less is more. I take approximately 7 g. a day, taken in small doses throughout the day (2g a.m. /2g p.m. /3g @bed). Again, my pain is severe. My doctor told me that I will never be out of pain without opioids. Well, let’s just see what happens, Doc…
For pain, the red veins work the best. Each individual will have different effects due to your body’s unique chemistry, and each batch is probably going to vary in alkaloid content, so you will have to figure out a dosage yourself. However, do NOT go to a vendor site and go by their dosage recommendations. Start out low, and increase in small increments until you find relief. I would start with 1 gram or 1/2 level tsp. (standardized baker’s 1/2 teaspoon).
Very important thing is to purchase some digital gram scales. You can get them for less than $10 and they are accurate if cared for properly. I also want to clear up a serious miscalculation I have seen over and over on kratom forums. I only use a standardized baker’s teaspoon to measure. I buy “micronized kratom”, and time after time after time… NOW LISTEN… ONE LEVEL TEASPOON of micronized kratom is generally very closely equivalent to 2 grams. Try it, but know that it also depends on the kind of “grind” they used on your kratom powder.
It saved my life. My husband says he fell in love with me all over again after I detoxed from those evil Rx’d narcotics. Stay safe, and keep this wonderful plant legal. It can be your lifesaver too.
Thank you, Mother Nature!
This is a very good post for me as I’m just now in the same predicament. I have herniated discs in my thoracic spine which the surgeon said they do not like to correct those b/c they would have to go through my chest to reach the discs as the anatomy of the thoracic spine leaves no room to reach the discs from the back. Okay, I’m coming off the meds b/c of a new problem with hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) that is somehow affected by my meds it seems. His idea to discontinue the pain meds for now, understandable BUT, I was not offered an alternative. Fine, I understand and will comply BUT you haven’t corrected my spine, I still have pain! Can’t take NSAIDS now b/c I have an ulcer from them. What choices did it leave for me? I live in Florida, front and center in the news when the federal crack down on pain meds took place. (The news loves to make an example out of Florida.) I found out about Kratom when I was Googling for information about dealing with PAWS. I am now using it to taper myself since the doctor didn’t. I have only used it for 5 days, and only tried the meang dah. It has worked for me well enough, but armed with the info on this page from the article, table, and reader comments I know how much and what to try.
Dear God…10 years of pills, I can’t even imagine! No wonder your hubby fell in love all over again!
does anyone know how long it takes for this herb to work for high levels of pain?i really don’t know how to make the uedm gold herb work best for me. if anyone knows anything please help.
Dear Sharone,
I empathize with you. First of all, I would not take the “uedm”, and I assume you mean “ultra enhanced” capsules. You may develop a tolerance very quickly on these “enhanced capsules” with the need to take more, plus they are expensive, or so I have heard time and again in these forums. I use the toss and wash method with the plain micronized leaf powder, and I get pain relief on an empty stomach or partially empty stomach in about 20-30 minutes with a good red vein. Each red vein is different, and most people prefer the Bali for pain relief. I use several of the red vein varieties, and on me, they all work pretty well. I guess I am pretty sensitive to kratom even though I previously took narcotics for the pain.
Also, please see my longer post, also posted on 12/21/15. I wish you all the luck in the world, and if you have further questions, please ask.
I used all sort of pain pills for back pain but also for energy!!! Been taking pure thai for a while and got to where it not working as well. What is the step up from there, pain, energy and stress is what I strive for. Also what does a let’s say pd of pure thai go for on internet and where is a good place to order from. Thanks billy
I’ve been doing extreme research on Kratom since by profession and my Master’s Degree I’m a bio technologist.
Anyway I’m not trying to brag just a little weight to what I say….
1) Borneo Red Vein
2) Maeng Da Red
3) RED THAI, everywhere I read claims that it is the absolute world’s most painkilling and relaxing strain. I hope this helps my friend
I just started taking kratom I got lucky and went to a kava bar and they had it. Just a simple question. How much Kratom should I use =in a 16 oz cup. please use teaspoon measurement
I take a teaspoon. I would strongly encourage you to start small since it can do a number on your GI tract. Too much kratom makes me feel weird, not a good weird.
Good luck!
I’m one of those people who gets physical withdrawal when stopping kratom. As soon as 12 hrs. after my last dose & it consists of *extreme* akathisia, sweating, intense body aches, *deep* mental depression, sneezing and of course bad insomnia. This is because I’ve been a daily high-dose user of kratom. Anyway, I recently discovered that I can jump right to Stem & Vein use and avoid all of that. I did not have to ‘slowly taper’ or slowly incorporate Stem & Vein into my regular kratomn either — I could just jump straight into Stem & Vein.
I discovered this by accident, actually. My vendor accidentally sent me Stem & Vein — instead of the usual White Vein Borneo that I order so regularly. So I was stuck…oh crap. I had no choice but to use this Stem & Vein, straight up and without ‘easing into it’. For 3 days I used the Stem & Vein and had literally no withdrawal from the kratom. Even the mental depression didn’t appear (not much, anyway).
First though, the taste of Stem & Vein is *awful*. Powder kratom is like whipped cream compared to it! S&V is so bitter it felt like it was burning my mouth. And the S&V didn’t give me the exhilarating ‘bright energy’ that I use kratom for. Instead, the S & V would give me a calm, peaceful relaxation — very similar to Kava, There was a slight amount of euphoria, very slight, but not what I really look for. But the important part is that I was calm, had no physical withdrawal and I could sleep good at night also.
I could actually see Stem & vein as useful for regular opiate withdrawal too. Straight up, as it is. It works. If you really want to quit using kratom, I recommend jumping right into Stem & Vein for a few days — and then jumping off totally.