Kratom Strains And Effects

Updated Nov 11, 2021
Written By: Mark Andrews

Countless people across the world are learning about kratom in 2020. With so many strains, its important to understand which strain is right for you. Unlike synthetic opioids, kratom’s chemical composition is complex, and the effects of this composition are dynamic.

Its main alkaloids are mitragynine, paynanthine, speciociliatine, and the more minor 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-HMG). Kratom’s neurochemical complexity is echoed in its physiological effects.

It is generally understood that at low doses (< 1 gram), kratom “can boost energy and enhance mood,” whereas at higher doses kratom is sedating, and may have anxiolytic qualities.

The following table serves as a comparative base for some of the most popular strains of kratom on the market.

Click on any strain below to find more information:

Ground Leaf Strains

StrainsEffectsDosage
BaliAn ideal balance of pain relief and energy boost. Bali works somewhat differently than a traditional red kratom. Bali helps achieve a gentle energy boost while maintaining the pain relief expected of a red. Euphoric and the most classic opiate like among the strains of kratom.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Maeng DaEnergizing and stimulating with pain killing effects. Maeng Da takes the normal pain relieving properties of a red strain and adds a nice energetic kick because of it’s specific alkaloid properties.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red BaliSimilar to Bali with some red characteristics. This is a known as a versatile strain.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red Vein ThaiSimilar to Bali with a more classic red strain effects.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red Vein KaliSedating and more classically opiate like. Red Kali is a more traditional red kratom offering pain relief & relaxation.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Red IndoSimilar to Red Kali and many other traditional strains. Red Indo is a more tame red vein strain and is often touted as ideal for mild pain relief and relaxation.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green IndoBalances pain relief and energy boosting qualities. The combination of alkaloids in Green Indo creates a longer lasting milder effect although there is not as high of a concentration of alkaloids as SGM.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green MalayThis original variety of Malaysian Kratom is well known for its mood-lifting, energizing effects.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Green Vein KaliA stimulating strain which also has painkilling attributes. Green Kali delivers a strong boost of energy without sacrificing any of the sought after pain relief effects. It is know for have a higher potency than Green Indo.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein KaliMore euphoric or dissociating. White Vein Kali is a milder white strain known for its energizing qualities – when compared to Red Vein Kali – while still containing notable pain relief qualities. .1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein ThaiWhite Thai may be the most stimulating of all white strains. There are however less pain relieving attributes than a red vein strain or a strain similar to Bali as a trade off.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White Vein IndoSimilar to Red Indo which is best known for its pain relief attributes. However White Vein Indo differs from the calming Red Indo by bringing a euphoric dissociative kick with it.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
White BorneoKnown as a uniquely high quality white strain of kratom. It has known for its long lasting, energizing effect.1/2 – 3 teaspoons
Super Green MalaysianKnown for its unique ability to combine the characteristic pain relieving properties of a red strain with the energy and euphoria boost of a white strain. SGM also has some of the longest lasting effects of any kratom with smooth delivery due to the high concentration of alkaloids.1/2 – 3 teaspoons

Kratom Extracts

StrainsEffectsDosage
Ultra Enhanced IndoMost euphoric of the extracts and works well for reducing social anxiety. UEI manages to contain a full range of effects including pain relief & relaxation with a slight energy and mood boost.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Gold Reserve ExtractPowerful extract made by applying highly concentrated kratom alkaloids back to natural kratom leaf. Gold Reserve is a highly potent extract providing a blend of stimulation and pain relief while providing full body relaxation with a notable energy boost.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
ISOL-8 ExtractISOL-8 is an outlier and has caffeine like stimulation. ISOL-8 uniquely focuses in on the energy and stimulating effects of kratom while other extracts generally bring out a broader range of effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Ultra Enhanced Red KaliThis extract is made by blending pure alkaloids from Red Vein Kalimantan leaf with high quality Red Kali leaf. This is not made with semi-synthetic chemicals but only all natural kratom leaf alkaloidal extract.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Natural Enhanced True ThaiMade from taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction of Thai Kratom and reapplied to a Green Vein Thai leaf. This extract is a high potency version of classic Thai kratom strains notable for a mild energy boost with significant pain relief & relaxation effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)
Natural Enhanced White SumatraCreated by taking a 90% pure alkaloid extraction from white vein kratom and mixing it with White vein leaf. This reformulation results in a more potent version of white vein kratom with significant pain relief and relaxation effects.1 gram or less (if mixed with powdered leaf)

1,683 thoughts on “Strains, Effects, and Dosage”

  1. I am a 35yr old female, weight 160 and I’m 5’9″. I am currently in pain management for a cervical herniated disc bulge onto nerves with radicalopathy. I have a history of cervical and lumbar disk bulges, herniations, protrusions, etc. I have cervical spinal stenosis, arthritis, degenerative disc disease and a number of other issues. Before my recent injury which has left me out of work and unable to do much, it didn’t take much to aggravate my neck or lower back and be on severe pain for days or weeks. I have depression and anxiety, and chronic fatigue so daily I take Adderall 30mg 3xday, Klonopin 1.5mg 1xday or as needed and I take Trazodone 250mg at night to help me sleep through the night. I’m also on 15mg of Morphine sulfate ER 2xday and MSContin 15mg 2xday. It has helped very very little with the pain, I have stopped the MSContin(Immediate Release) because of bowel issues. 6 days ago I woke up in debilitating pain all over- my hands, feet, toes, ankles, and knees were swollen and I could not grasp or open anything with my hands. Every morning I wake up in this severe pain though the swelling has subsided since stopping MSContin. My neuro thinks I have RA, so I have to see a specialist first. My father told me to look up Kratom and have been reading all about it, the strains, side effects etc. I don’t know which strain is right for me, I really need something for the chronic severe pain- i don’t do much at all due to my injury but even household chores or walking the dog….by early evening I can barely walk as my legs are in severe pain, my hips and all over. So I want to try a strain for the severe pain but no energizing stuff because of my Adderall…. Though maybe this can replace it? What is the best for debilitating pain? I can deal with euphoria but no crazy stuff. Can I use this in combination with my other medicines? Any recommendarions would be great. Also, I can not take any NSAID’s, Tylenol, ibuprofen nothing because I have bad reactions to all of them. I’m very very sensitive to medicine. I get side effects like rash and swelling of face, mouth, etc from like everything

    1. I think u are like me. I have serve pain and major back problems too. So i know the maeng da strain might be good for u. It helps me out alot and yes i rather take that then adderall any day. The pain is gone for a long time u dont havr to take so many meds to help the pain. I dont have to take pain meds just the kratom and it helps all day. And taking a small about before bed helps u with pain as u sleep. So u wake u good and not in pain. So i hope this helps u .

      1. I am 47 and in constant pain, only relief was a pain pill. I wasn’t an addict but I was dancing on the edge. I could go without but then I would be in sleep depriving pain…Maeng Da strain red vein…I buy the leaves, grind them myself and slug 2 teaspoons down with milk 1st thing in the morning and my ONLY regret is that I did not know about this YEARS AGO. I just did all day physical work and my back hurts, took some kratom, but I wouldn’t been able to do this without kratom…it’s a plant a friggin plant that terrifies the drug companies…added bonus was NO withdrawal when I switched….I would get flu like symptoms for 2-3 days and then..well then I would be in pain when I would stop taking vicodin.

  2. I am coming off methadone–13 yrs being in it!–I have ordered red thai maeng da (quite a bit of it because I heard it was the best for taking away withdraw symptoms). But I’m reading here that there are other strains just as good if not better for withdraw relief. My question is what other strains should I buy for relief, and to mix with what I’ve already purchased.

    1. You heard right, reds are the closest pharmacological to prescription painkillers. Any red will work, and if you’re planning on tapering off completely, I would not buy any more. It’s much easier to taper off one strain of kratom, instead of multiple strains.

      You’re still going to feel wd-seriously, I hope this isn’t cold turkey. 13 years on methadone means you MUST taper the methadone. Kratom is not enough for cold turkey friend. If you have energy problems, you could try a green strain during the day, but frankly I’d recommend caffeine instead. Best to keep things simple/consistent. Use as much of your one strain as you can tolerate- I recommend supplementing with ginger/ginger tea to suppress the nausea so you can take higher doses. Best of luck!

  3. For years I used a stimulant that is very illegal, but I took it in doses that would allow me to work extensively with an extreme amount of concentration. I’ve not used this stimulant for years now and and unfortunately as my age has increased so has my workload, some days I have actually had to put in 20 hour shifts without anything to boost me. I have a very public position where I manage a popular business in a small conservative town. I need something that will not have any visible effects to the public but will give me EXTREME energy and allow me to focus. Any advice on strains, blends, dosage, etc. would REALLY help, and please remember that I already have a high tolerance to stimulating effects, it’s probably gonna take a lot to get me going.

      1. Personally I would stick to the white vein for you. You want the energy and focus without the “wobbly ” feeling for work. White vein Maeng da would be a good one for that

    1. isnt feasible especially not having a car. I can taper 5mg a week but thats it.i was told i should try kratom to help with the withdrawals. Which strain is best and when do i start taking it immediately?i dont know the dosage to take or anything. Can someone tell me what to do?

  4. Hello, why don’t you have Red Vein Thai? It says that you are substituting Tead Vein Kali for Thai, but doesn’t say why or when the Red Gein Thai will be back. Why is it not available, & when (or where) can I get Red Vein Thai?

  5. So I’m tapering off methadone & need to know, what would be the best kratom strain to purchase and dose to start at for withdrawal relief? I am trying to get off the methadone quickly as possible I’m really sick of being owned by it. I was at 98mg my taper drops 1mg a day & I’m at 77mg now. I am pushing myself to not stop or slow my taper yet cuz I truly want to get off the crap. I’ve heard kratom helps tremendously. Anyone have any advice cuz I am desperately wanting to be free of methadone so I would really appreciate any words of wisdom. I’ve been on methadone for over 4 years now, 120mg was my highest dose ever about 2 years ago. I’m a 5’2 115lbs female & I’ve just barely started getting any withdrawal effects & I’ve dropped 22mg in 22 days already, it’s very minimal, the discomfort I’m in so far, but it will hit me hard soon I’m sure, methadone was a bad choice, Im wishing I’d just kicked the heroin & been done instead. Thanks in advance for any help.

    1. You should be looking for an Indo blend. Start slowly. As you decrease the methadone increase the kratom amounts. Good luck!

      1. Pam, Say I’m on 90 mg methadone and I taper 1 mg per day. On day 1 I decrease methadone 1mg and take equivelent of 1mg kratom. On day 2 I decrease methadone 1mg and increase kratom 1 mg, making my kratom dose 2mgs? Do I continue this procedure until I’m off methadone and then taper off a high kratom dose? (Can you give me an estimate of how much that dose might be?) I read where methadone blocks kratom. How do I determine how much kratom to increase 1 mg? I’m 79 and not too quick anymore. Thanks in advance for your patience.

          1. That’s exactly what I did. I detoxed off methadone twice and suboxine once. This last go around I decided to just Quit methadone Instead of tapering, as i found the taper is more of a dragged out torture session Instead of taking a couple weeks to be done with it. KRATOM KRISTIN and Imodium worked wonders, I literally got 100grams of mixed red strains and took my last dose Feb 20th 2015 which was 105mg if methadone, the drive to my clinic is more then an hour away which I spent 4 years commuting to. The next morning I woke up took about 10 grams of red vein Thai which didn’t really break through the methadone but definitely unequivocally took away withdrawals. I did notice if I took 3-5 grams every 3-4 hours I was in a better spot. The thing about Imodium is you have to take a high dose for it to be impactful and I found myself really dehydrated to the point where I would only take it before bed when I mentally thought i was going to get the restless legs. I’m thinking now that maybe kratom alone would of sufficed. Needless to say I’ve been clean from any opiates since feb20 2015 and I owe it all to kratom. The best part about the whole process is I took kratom every day for 21 days ranging from 20 grams when methadone was still coming out of me down to 3 grams toward the end of the 21 days and I felt no withdrawal from kratom at all. I’m back because I heard about all the regulation going on with kratom, it’s a shame because it managed to help me get clean from years if opiate abuse..if you would like to talk more about this seeing as we have similar predicaments let me know or send me an email. God bless and be well

        1. That’s exactly what I did. I detoxed off methadone twice and suboxine once. This last go around I decided to just Quit methadone Instead of tapering, as i found the taper is more of a dragged out torture session Instead of taking a couple weeks to be done with it. KRATOM KRISTIN and Imodium worked wonders, I literally got 100grams of mixed red strains and took my last dose Feb 20th 2015 which was 105mg if methadone, the drive to my clinic is more then an hour away which I spent 4 years commuting to. The next morning I woke up took about 10 grams of red vein Thai which didn’t really break through the methadone but definitely unequivocally took away withdrawals. I did notice if I took 3-5 grams every 3-4 hours I was in a better spot. The thing about Imodium is you have to take a high dose for it to be impactful and I found myself really dehydrated to the point where I would only take it before bed when I mentally thought i was going to get the restless legs. I’m thinking now that maybe kratom alone would of sufficed. Needless to say I’ve been clean from any opiates since feb20 2015 and I owe it all to kratom. The best part about the whole process is I took kratom every day for 21 days ranging from 20 grams when methadone was still coming out of me down to 3 grams toward the end of the 21 days and I felt no withdrawal from kratom at all. I’m back because I heard about all the regulation going on with kratom, it’s a shame because it managed to help me get clean from years if opiate abuse..if you would like to talk more about this seeing as we have similar predicaments let me know or send me an email. God bless and be well

          1. James my son is on methadone right now an is tying to come off so he has been weening down 1-2 mg a day to get down to 30 mg so he could go in to detox an rehab but it’s taking toll on him feeling bad an trying to work an so on so I was going to get him Kratom to try, how should he start out this process mg wise an should I get him same as you red mix an how should I get it powder casual form I’m not sure an what is a good web site with good product also people say they get it from vendors in their area so they know their getting good product but what kind of store am I looking for cause I’m not sure. Call me a dummy lol. Please help you can e mail me if you like cause I’m not sure I will be able find your response if you answer lol

    2. I was in the same boat as you. I’m on day 54 of no methadone. I was on 55mgs steadily for 4 years. I tapered 5 a week till I got to 10mgs, then I dropped daily, 987653 to 0. I got through the initial withdrawals with just cbd hemp oil, then at day 15 my kratom came in the mail. I WISH I would have known about it SOONER! It would have helped so much! I’ve tried all the strains except a white vein strain as I was worried about the stimulating affect giving me more anxiety. I found the best strain would be ANY red vein strain for withdrawls. I’m still using kratom for PAWS. And now I take a green vein strain as it gives me energy. Green vein strains are very good for helping with PAWS. It’ll give you the energy needed to continue living normally. I felt so heavy like I had extra gravity on me, and absolutely no energy. The green vein Bali takes that completely away!!
      But yeah, for initial withdrawal definitely a red vein. Also CBD oil REALLY helped in the beginning. Kept the anxiety and pain at bay, but I had to take ALOT of it, I was dosing every 2 hours.
      I hope this helps. And good luck to you!

      1. Just a comment to this post-re: PAWS
        I discovered kratom several months after coming off of 10 years of heroin, vicodin, morphine (whatever the hell I could get), suboxone when I couldn’t get those, and 14 years of xanax. I had terrible PAWs, post acute withdrawal syndrome, that just would not go away. Diet, exercise, vitamins, nothing helped. Kratom has saved my life. I have always suffered from major depression -since my early 20s (I am 50), and I do have chronic pain. kratom alleviates much of my pain, so that I do not need opiate pain killers. It gives me energy without caffiene jitters or anxiety. It works far better for depression than any medication that I have ever been on for that purpose. I am devastated that they are trying to schedule this alongside heroin, LSD and peyote. I hope we can stop this. If you haven’t signed the petition yet, please do it! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/please-do-not-make-kratom-schedule-i-substance

        PS: I take a fairly hefty dose of 7-10 grams of kratom a day, maeng da. I take a week to 10 days off about every five or 6 weeks.

  6. I find the Red Bali to be quite energizing (and focusing) among with the euphoria. It’s really amazing. Takes approx 20-30 min to kick in. It’s not good for bedtime, but great for morning and work. Still experimenting with white and green strains. I use it for depression and anxiety, not pain, but appreciate that added benefit.

  7. Will Kraton show up on urine tests? Medically I am a mess. The pain is not allowing me to walk. Plus I am on 6 liters of oxygen. This hour I read blog I have never heard of this herb, I need something for pain and I am chronically depressed …….When you get to where I am I don’t care how bad it tastes Where do I buy this stuff? Please help me ~~~~~Not ready to give up!!! Thank you Was on heavy opiates…. They don’t work

    1. Hi, I suffer from a decent amount of pain myself probably not a bad as where you are but I can somewhat understand where your coming from. PAbotanicals.com is a great site. For pain you really just want to try any RED strains. I get a mixture from that website called Red Fibro and it works wonders also comes in an ULTRA. The Red Borneo works well also. Good luck on your journey, it takes abit of experimenting but when you find what works for you, you can start to breath alittle easier.

      1. Thank You Chris!! I appreciate your reply. I will go to their site!! I am 61 my friends don’t understand the problems I have one of my Church friends accompanies me to Dr. Appts she takes notes, understands Xrays, Dr. diagnoses etc…Its like we have weaved in and out of this snake but she doesn’t want to be involved in my pain relief. Its OK I appreciate all her support!! I can’t imagine life without her 🙂 In 1986 I was assaulted my head hit the concrete it was a knock out!! In 1989 I had a spect scan at OSHU, SAIF wouldn’t accept the diagnosis that it happened at work 2 areas of my brain showed injury diagnosed PTSD 30 years later. What a mess! Thousands Of Ppl
        are worse off! We share our message of understanding and hope! grlbud@ aol ThankYou!!

        1. Sharon…this stuff works. It is natural, a leaf from a plant. I find the Maeng Di Red Vein works for my back pain and a bit of depression (from the pain!) I truly feel like I have my life back.

    2. I don’t know whetit will show on a drug test but i used morphine 11years for pain. The day after i decided to quit, i was in awful pain, i tried about one tsp. of red vein maeng da kratom for the first time and 45 minutes later i began feeling better! I was shocked as i hadn’t expected it to work! The red strains work best for pain, best of luck💚

      1. I took a work drug test it did not show up! I looked up before my test and was fairly certain before hand that I would pass. Wish I would have found Kratom years ago!

    3. Not at all. I took a quite large dose the night before taking a urine test for a new job. Although it IS legal, I think people still get nervous that it will show up. I figured if it did, I can just tell them I take it and they could confirm. It IS legal after all. It did not show up and I never heard anything back from the testing facility. You’ll be fine.

    4. Does not show up on pee test unless they are testing for it witch is unlikely. Hill country kratom or happi hippo herbals, or lifeforce kratom is also great. Good luck

    5. Hi Sharon,
      I suffer with chronic pain from arthritis and Kratom is so far the only thing that gives me any notable relief. I found pabotanicals and am extremely happy with the quality and prices. They also treat their customers extremely well. All of the red vein strains are great for pain. I switch between them regularly to keep from becoming tolerant and I use #000 gel caps. Packed they hold a gram each (or very close) . I take 4 grams in the morning with my coffee and then 2 grams every 4 hrs. At bedtime I take 6 grams and I sleep wonderfully. I do however recommend that when you aren’t getting the relief to take a couple days break from the Kratom instead of upping the dose because you don’t want to get a tolerance and taking too much will nauseate you.

  8. Hi all, I’m brand new to this and need some advice. I tried Kratom Maeng Da capsules and then was told that the Expert Maeng Da was more effective. I don’t feel the expert is working. The kratom seemed to help. They are both in capsule form. How many capsules do I take? Please help! Should I switch to the powder form? I need bilateral knee replacements due to lower leg deformities. I’ve been on RX pain meds for the past 7 years my tolerance to these pain meds is to the point where I need large dosages to cut the pain. Withdrawls are horrible. I’m looking for pain relief, energy and euphoria would be a plus lol. So, can someone help me and lead me in the right direction.

    1. In my experience I’ve needed to take at least 10g’s and quit taking the capsules cause I felt that they delayed the effects for too long.

    2. Yes don’t take capsules. They might be old product. For pain. Take plain bali kratom powd powder. I use the smallest sauce pan my kitchen. Fill.3.quarters with water add one tablespoon of bali kratom, turn to med heat for about 30 mins, add 2 Tsp sugar to the pot , very important to make it t as taste better. Turn to a boil for 3 or 4 mins, .just watch for over flow , all the alkoids rise to the top.
      After that poor it into a large mug , even better a pint glass from a bar. Allow 20 min to cool down. DONT STRAIN IT, ALL kratom goodnessential is not water soluble. You won’t even really taste the plant matter because its cooked.

      1. I frequently make my own vitamin/herbs capsules. It’s very easy to do and cheap. All it takes is a “00” capsule machine which you buy online and empty gelatin capsules “00” which are easily bought online. I can’t remember how much I paid, but figure on $40 for both. You have to make sure your empty gelatin capsules are the same size as your capsule machine or it won’t work.

  9. I take 1 oz (1dl) of OJ or Grapefruit juice and throw in a large teaspoon of Kratom. To prevent klumping, put in the liquid FIRST and THEN the Kratom and stir it vigorously with a whisk. Zero klumps when you do it this way.

  10. I’m a 42 yr old female and have ischiofemoral impingement of both hips (bone on bone) with degenerative arthritis, tendinopathy, osteoporosis – after radiation/ chemo for cervical cancer 7 years ago. Recent left hip arthroplasty with 7 total procedures – including repair of two labral tears. Now, I have new labral tear in surgical hip!! I also have fibromyalgia. I have nerve damage from removal of the degenerative muscle and tissues. Have only used oxycodone 20mg 4x/day. (I started out taking 5mg, and ended up on 20mg last 18 months.) Pain MD says cannot help me, due to new DEA regulations Re: opioid use for chronic pain (not recommended).
    He gave me 90 pills and said good luck – no help in coming off this med!!
    I’ve never tried to stop the oxycodone, but a very good friend told me about Kratom and how he was able to stop his pain meds. Does anyone have any recommendations on managing serious pain, insomnia, and anxiety with Kratom…that can please help me figure this out? Esp if anyone has detoxed off oxycodone. Do I start to use this as I lower my dose of oxycodone to help with withdrawals? Do I have to be completely off the pain med for this to work? I have no idea where to even start in tapering off, so any info about the transition to Kratom would be so helpful. I am grateful for any info on strand, dosing, when to start, etc. Thanks so much guys 😉💯.

    1. I would taper myself off the oxycodone slowly. If you can handle it, go down to 3 a day and supplement a dose of oxycodone with a small teaspoon of kratom. If the kratom does nothing for you than try a bigger teaspoon. I would start with green maeng da. Pretty much any smoke shop sells them and it’s cheaper if you buy it in the powder form. If that works good for you than each week take away an oxycodone and add a teaspoon of kratom. Just a warning though, kratom is addictive too just not as bad withdrawals as you get from opiates. Good luck hope this helps.

      1. I have had issues with chronic pain, and dependency on opiates. The last time I came off opiates, I used gabapentin (you need a prescription for) and Kratom. I had NO withdrawl symptoms. I used mainly red veined Bali for this, however I understand Red Veined Indonesia or Borneo is also effective. I have been through horrible withdrawals in the past, and I can’t say how much this combination helped me. I also recommend the amino-acid DLPA, and high dose Vitamin C. I would suggest the Web site “opiateaddictionsupport”. There are many recommendations for opiate withdrawal at home. Good luck!!

      2. So it’s okay to supplement opioid meds with small amounts of kratom? I just ordered some but am afraid of mixing with hydrocodone.

    2. Hi tigerlilly, my supply of oxy has recently dried up as well, I have had kratom for some time just in case I did have my oxi haulted. It is a miracle. I bought vitamin c capsules, emptied them and put the kratom in. 4 caps (or less depending) in the morning and 4 in the afternoon and NO withdraw at all. as a matter of fact, it is very similar to oxi. Gives me energy and euphoria. I hope this helps you

      1. Hi, I’m in the same boat as you, same problem with my prescription. What kind of kratom (strain) did you use? And how much? ( gram or tsp.) I had red vein premium bali the first time. And that worked just like you said. But this time I tried to save a little money and went with a different vendor (all online) I got all these different samples , very nice, but never heardid of some of them..elephant, golden bali….and indo white ultra premium….which to take ? Green Malay, Thai enhanced?

        1. I looked up a Kratom strains there is NO Golden Bali Kratom but there is a Yellow Bali Kratom (One Color Off). Kratom growers use that name as a marketing gimic!

  11. Moderator…could you please explain why you deleted my previous post? There was absolutely nothing wrong with it. thank you

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